Eve came from Adam, evolution does not allow this

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Have you forgotten the answer already then?

Your answer fell short when you said "As soon as we were able to 'think'" completely disregarding Romans 5:12 which tells us "Therefore, just as sin came into the world through ONE man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned"

Once again the bible has to be changed to fit the religion of evolutionism.

 

[-57]

And have been sensible enough to see that the Adam and Eve story has deeper significance that merely telling us that man is made of mud and Eve was made of one of Adams ribs.

Genesis goes on to explain the fall of mankind. The religion of Evolutionism does not have an explanation that squares with the inspired Word of God.

 

[Cis.jd]

So?

You said God told us exactly how he created things, so if that is true then explain this. lol at so?

 

[Cis.jd]

All right, tell all of us how random mutations add up and cause the vast different morphological features we seen the animals today.

Can you specify which mutation because they are all different.

 

[ExTiff]

Genesis goes on to explain the fall of mankind. The religion of Evolutionism does not have an explanation that squares with the inspired Word of God.

That is true but the 'fall' probably had nothing to do with actually eating fruit from an actual tree. The pair's sudden realisation that they were naked, their sense of shame, their fear of God, their shifting blame, their accusation that it was God's fault, their toil and hardship and painful childbirth are real here and now experiences of ADAM (i.e. mankind, the human race, of which The Son of God became one in order to reclaim that which was dead and lost. Luke 15:24) Adam and Eve are Types which are representative of every human being on earth, we all sin as they did in the story, we all suffer the consequences of our deeds, we all need a Savior.)

 

[-57]

Can you specify which mutation because they are all different.

The ones considered to have enhanced the benefit of the organism.

 

[-57]

That is true but the 'fall' probably had nothing to do with actually eating fruit from an actual tree. The pair's sudden realisation that they were naked, their sense of shame, their fear of God, their shifting blame, their accusation that it was God's fault, their toil and hardship and painful childbirth are real here and now experiences of ADAM (i.e. mankind, the human race, of which The Son of God became one in order to reclaim that which was dead and lost. Luke 15:24) Adam and Eve are Types which are representative of every human being on earth, we all sin as they did in the story, we all suffer the consequences of our deeds, we all need a Savior.)

True, the fruit juice had nothing todo with it. It was an act of disobedience.

It is true, we all sin but your religion fails to explain why.

If God used evolutionism to create mankind, when did sin enter? You said when the evolving population could think....but have absolutely no biblical support. In fact it contradicts scripture.
What you have presented would have been a natural process which you make mankind guilty of rather than a disobedient choice of one man as the bible teaches.

 

[JacksBratt]

Indeed. Precisely why it is nice that we have scientific methods of actually finding truth instead of taking viewpoint from different people`s holy books and traditions.

When we start to deny plain text from the bible... we will always stray from fact.
Science is the wisdom and knowledge of men... creations.

The bible, although not a science book, describes events that happened the way they happened.

Which are you going to accept as truth... God's word... or man's word?

 

[JacksBratt]

Listen up at the back there!


And you still don't understand what I am telling you, do you? Perhaps I should put it in a parable for you, or even set it to music and dance to it, to get the truth through to you in there.
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It matters not... Genesis is not a parable. Parable, like Limericks or Haiku or an Acrostic, have certain criteria that determine it as such... Genesis is straight out history. No metaphor, no allegory, no parable. Despite your need for it to be so.

 

[JacksBratt]

You said God told us exactly how he created things, so if that is true then explain this. lol at so?

I'll help you out... Go to your bible. Turn to Genesis 1 and read.

You have no argument. Your points are void...You have no substance to your debate.

 

[Archivist]

It matters not... Genesis is not a parable. Parable, like Limericks or Haiku or an Acrostic, have certain criteria that determine it as such... Genesis is straight out history. No metaphor, no allegory, no parable. Despite your need for it to be so.

No, it is allegory. You are, of course, free to your opinion.

 

[Cis.jd]

The ones considered to have enhanced the benefit of the organism.

You need to be more specific. I can't just answer something so broad. But in general, the only way for that to happen especially at a fast rate is through an Intelligent Designer. This was William L Craig's retort to Christopher Hitchens. But again, be more specific.

I'll help you out... Go to your bible. Turn to Genesis 1 and read.

You have no argument. Your points are void...You have no substance to your debate.

Gen 1 doesn't tell me exactly how other ethnicities came to be through adam and eve. Where are the genes that they passed down to help create chinese, africans, and every other race that exists now? You made a statement that God was exact on how he designed life, and "read gen 1" is your response? and here you are pointing out "no substance and not argument"? Where are the details about the 9 planets, the shape of the earth, and the races just like I ask since the creation in gen is completely historic and exact to it's detail?

 

[-57]

No, it is allegory. You are, of course, free to your opinion.

Allegory...as in the fall of Adam in the Garden never happened?

 

[Cis.jd]

Allegory...as in the fall of Adam in the Garden never happened?

No, it means it isn't literal.

 

[-57]

You need to be more specific. I can't just answer something so broad. But in general, the only way for that to happen especially at a fast rate is through an Intelligent Designer. This was William L Craig's retort to Christopher Hitchens. But again, be more specific.

Problem is, I don't think you can answer it at all. Which is OK.

Gen 1 doesn't tell me exactly how other ethnicities came to be through adam and eve. Where are the genes that they passed down to help create chinese, africans, and every other race that exists now? You made a statement that God was exact on how he designed life, and "read gen 1" is your response? and here you are pointing out "no substance and not argument"? Where are the details about the 9 planets, the shape of the earth, and the races just like I ask since the creation in gen is completely historic and exact to it's detail?

Those genes existed in Adams DNA. As well as Noah's boys and their wives.

There is no reason for God to give us details about the nine planets. But, He did give us details pertains to the creation of man as well as mans fall and development of the sin nature. The problem is, is that the religion of evolutionism can't provide those details...and when ever an attempt is made it always contradicts scripture.

 

[-57]

No, it means it isn't literal.

Why is there verses like these if the garden of Eden never existed?

Joel 2:3 Fire devours before them, and behind them a flame burns. The land is like the garden of Eden before them, but behind them a desolate wilderness, and nothing escapes them.

Eze 36:35 And they will say, ‘This land that was desolate has become like the garden of Eden, and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are now fortified and inhabited.’

 

[-57]

No, it means it isn't literal.

Or, are you saying there was no literal fall?

 

[Cis.jd]

Or, are you saying there was no literal fall?

Why is there verses like these if the garden of Eden never existed?

Joel 2:3 Eze 36:35 ’

Not literal doesn't mean it's false. For example, i say: this boy was the top dog at his school. This is a factual statement but not literal (he isn't an actual dog), the main point was to describe his leadership. come on!

 

[Cis.jd]

Problem is, I don't think you can answer it at all. Which is OK.

Those genes existed in Adams DNA. As well as Noah's boys and their wives.

There is no reason for God to give us details about the nine planets. But, He did give us details pertains to the creation of man as well as mans fall and development of the sin nature. The problem is, is that the religion of evolutionism can't provide those details...and when ever an attempt is made it always contradicts scripture.

The Bible just doesn't have the answers for everything involving science. There was no reason for God to give us details about the planets, genetics,why he gave 200+ bones, and much more evolution because the Bible was for the purpose of knowing him.

, I can't make you believe because you've grown into fundamentalism that I understand the discomfort in looking into things that you are afraid conflicts your beliefs. Listen to William L Craig, Lennox, Fr Barron and you'll find out how Evolution is not only a scientific fact but evidence on the existence of God.

 

[-57]

"we were created" and "we fall" are called key points, it's the details in between in where you determine a story to be metaphor or literal. Sorry, but I'm flabbergasted on you asking this question.




Do you know what "literal" means? When something isn't spoken about literally that doesn't mean it is fiction. For example, i say this boy was the top dog at his school, i'm not saying he is actually a dog i'm speaking metaphorically on his authority - his authority is factual it's just being phrased literally, because he isn't an actual dog. come on!

I find it rather amazing how you fight this issue.
The bible tells us how mankind was made and then fell....you make it a metaphor....yet can't provide an answer as to what actually happened. All for the faith in evolutionism.