I am posting here because I want the skeptics and atheists who don't necessarily believe in the Bible to be able to reply.
Logical case for eternal hell. Debating online over the years I see repeated questions against God, and one that I see that has not been refuted is this one: "why would God send someone to infinite hell, for finite sins?" When a skeptic asks this question they assume that they have won. Because most of the time they do win. But not this time. See our soul is spirit. Not physical. So without mass according to the theory of relativity, there is no time. So our souls are eternal by default according to known science, that is not even incorporating meta physics at that point. So technically all actions are performed by our eternal souls. Every hate filled word, every fear, every lust. It's all stamped in eternity. Because sin itself, is eternal, it must be punished eternally. Eternal hell is not a long time. It's outside of time and space. That is why I don't think the geocentric hell is really hell. Some guys believe hell is in the core of the earth. I don't think we need a physical molten fire at all, hell will be spiritually empowered. It could in fact be enflamed by God's glory itself upon sin. We don't know. That is the first part of the logical case for hell, and the strongest. The second part of this is to describe why would God send us to hell in general, why not just a prison or something else?
I feel that conscious eternal damnation in Hell is justified myself.
see if you had the ability to read every thought of every human, every lie, every deception, every angry word, every hate filled word, and the sheer number of them you would think twice about calling God unjust for eternal hell.
but my logical case for eternal hell is not based on one sin. My logical case for eternal hell is that God, who can read our thoughts and minds, and also who is perfect, can read our wickedness, and cannot forget every detail of every sin, so in an average lifetime, that is thirty thousand sins for an extremely moral person who only sins once a day. IF you do the math, 365 times eighty years, is a little under thirty thousand sins. So God is reminded of thirty thousand times you were angry, hated, lusted, stole from work, cheated on taxes, etc, etc. And when you look at the holiness of God, every time you are angry that is like murder, and every time you lusted after someone on the internet, that was like adultery and fornication. So at the end of the day, thirty thousand mortal sins creates a situation where a physical prison does not meet up with the amount of sin. If a murderer is killed for one act of committing a serial murder (under capital punishment laws,) then thirty thousand angry thoughts, of murder is not paid for by a single death. It must be paid for by eternal misery.
At this point you may be wondering how to escape from Hell...
Most people think they are relatively good people who will go to heaven one day. I just have a few questions for that person.
How many lies have you told in your whole life? (what do they call someone who lies?) -a liar
Have you ever said [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] on social media, or used God's name as a curse word? (the Bible calls that Blasphemy)
Have you ever stolen anything (regardless of value) in your whole life? (what do they call people who steal?) -Thieves
Have you ever looked with lust upon someone? (the Bible calls that adultery)
now by your own admission, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulteror at heart. And that is only four of the ten commandments. Now if God judges you by the ten commandments when you die, will you get heaven or hell? (most of us would say Hell).
So does that concern you? It concerns me.
I love you and I don't want anyone to go to hell.
In order to be saved one must do two things. Repent of any known sin, and trust in the Finished work of Christ.
If you were in court for a speeding ticket and they condemned you to prison and I stepped in and paid the fine, you would get off free.
That is what Jesus did on the cross, HE paid the fine for the world. Now all they have to do is endorse the check, but most won't.
because in order to endorse that check, they must repent and trust in Christ.
people would rather just believe in Jesus existence and hope they get to heaven.
James says even the devils believe, so what does that make us if we do the same?
we must repent, it's not an option.
But it's worth it.
(it does not mean we are perfect, but repentance becomes a tool we use as christians the rest of our lives)
If we believe in Jesus but we don't repent, we lack the one tool that helps us grow to be more like God later.
and heaven and eternal life, misses it's true meaning which is to be more loving of our enemies, our neighbors and God.
I know this is a heavy message,
but if you are a skeptic and you are not christian, yet you still do not believe in hell at all, watch this video it's a cardiologist interviewing people who had near death experiences and came back from hell itself....
The next post will be for christians who don't believe in hell, but are saved...
However I was unable to add this text due to length considerations, here 3 evidences of eternal hell from scripture, a teaser into the next post...
- Matthew 25:46
"And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
Augustine raised the argument that since Aionios in Matthew 25:46 refers to both life and punishment , it had to carry the same duration in both cases.
Annihilationists are stuck to believe the duration is relative to whom it is given.
- secondly the soul has to be eternal because satan and angels are eternal and it is them that share the experience of Hell with the wicked. Again annihilationists are stuck to believe that the duration is relative to whom it is given.
- thirdly, the beast and the false prophet are in hell a thousand years in the Revelation. They will be tossed in before the millennium and abide until the end of the 1000 years when Satan is thrown in.
Revelation 14:11
"And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."
that verse proves that whoever worships the beast or his image or receives the mark will have the same destination as the beast and the false prophet.
Revelation 19:20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Now we need to know how long the beast and the false prophet and those who worship the beast are in hell, do they self destruct after so long or are they in there for eternity like it says?
Now remember what it says in revelation 20, satan is bound after this for a 1000 years. Revelation 20:1-3, and simultaneously the saints reign with Christ for 1000 years verses 4-6. Then after that satan is released to tempt those who were born in the millenium (verse 7-9), that never knew what temptation was and free will to sin due to Jesus ruling and "reigning with an iron rod" as the Bible says. Some will rebel at this time, and join satan, then after this happens the rebellion is crushed by God verse 9, and then what I want you to see here is this. Remember the beast and the false prophet, throne in the fire, before this thousand years? Well Satan is thrown in there, and they are still there! Read this verse...
Rev 20:10
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
notice it states that they currently ARE there in revelation 20:10, placed in prior to the millenium, and still there 1000 years later!
This not part of the three arguments for eternal hell, but it is a separate argument that likens the fire from Sodom and Gomorrah to literal hell.
Luke 17:29 But on the day Lot left Sodom, fire and brimstone rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
Jude 1:7 In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.
Are you suggesting they are right now suffering in eternal fire? Or that the fire destroyed them for eternity?
2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them deep into hell, placing them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;
Or are you suggesting God did not put them in chains of dense darkness, but is instead punishing them before judgment has been passed?
Chains of darkness - death - to there await the resurrection and judgement.
Because "hell" the grave - is likened to sleep, where there exists no knowledge - no anything.
Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatever you find to do with your hands, do it with all your might, for in Sheol, where you are going, there is no work or planning or knowledge or wisdom.
Hebrew Sheol, Greek Gehenna.
SHEOL - JewishEncyclopedia.com
So as it was for Sodom and Gomorrah who instead of being hurled into the lake of fire - had the lake of fire hurled onto them. And will never exist for eternity. The punishment is everlasting and the punishment is eternal death, the opposite of eternal life. And since no resurrection will be possible, it will be an eternal punishment. They will indeep weep and gnash their teeth for however long their mortal bodies can survive - as those at Sodom and Gomorrah wept and gnashed their teeth before being destroyed.
no, when Revelation 20:10 happens, they will be there, hence the "are" in verse 10. And as I said before, they were placed in before the tribulation, and there 1000 years later, still. Burning.
In in conclusion: here is one more verse:
Mark 14:21
but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had never been born.
this verse should be confusing to an annihilationist, as if someone dies, it's not anything more than turning someone's soul off for eternity. Judas hung himself, and died. Very little pain involved. So why would Jesus say that it would be good for that man if he was never born?
I await your responses.
