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[BarryDesborough]

Usually I'm asked to back my beliefs up with Scripture so they can do one of two things: accuse me of being brainwashed, or "trample the pearls."

But being accused of "confirmation bias" after I back something I believe up with Scripture is somewhat new to me.

It's probably nothing more than a cheap attempt to dissuade me from using the Sword in future discussions.

It takes confirmation bias to set too much store in scripture.

 

[Freodin]

Um ... for the record ... "we" smoked Berlin, then held back and let the Soviets have it in retribution for the Soviets did to them.

(If my memory serves me correctly.)

So unless your family had binoculars or a telescope ...

Your memory? In contrast to you, my family had been in Berlin when it was captured by the Red Army.

You couldn't have set a foot on European soil, had the Russians (you know, the evil commies that you so valiantly fought) not defeated the main german armies.

But still YOU (singular) have done nothing at all in that regard, and so you haven't any justification to include you in this special group.

 

[AV1611VET]

Your memory? In contrast to you, my family had been in Berlin when it was captured by the Red Army.

You couldn't have set a foot on European soil, had the Russians (you know, the evil commies that you so valiantly fought) not defeated the main german armies.

But still YOU (singular) have done nothing at all in that regard, and so you haven't any justification to include you in this special group.

What are you talking about ME for?

I wasn't even born yet ... LOL.

 

[AV1611VET]

It takes confirmation bias to set too much store in scripture.

LOL ... I quoted one verse out of roughly 31,240 ... and you call that "strong confirmation bias"?

 

[Freodin]

What are you talking about ME for?

I wasn't even born yet ... LOL.

Exactly. So I would ask to not to talk about "us" or "we" when you are talking about things that you were not involved in.

It is bad enough when you brag with your own irrelevant achievements. It is worse when you adorn yourself with borrowed feathers.

 

[BarryDesborough]

LOL ... I quoted one verse out of roughly 31,240 ... and you call that "strong confirmation bias"?

That's exactly it. You can find anything in there to "support" whatever you want. It's the same effect as you get with the I-Ching or the astrology pages of any cheap rag you care to mention.

 

[AV1611VET]

Exactly. So I would ask to not to talk about "us" or "we" when you are talking about things that you were not involved in.

Um ... when speaking of a country as a whole ... "we" and "us" are appropriate.

Did we win WW2?

 

[AV1611VET]

That's exactly it. You can find anything in there to "support" whatever you want. It's the same effect as you get with the I-Ching or the astrology pages of any cheap rag you care to mention.

Barry, this isn't being done in a vacuum.

Jesus said,

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I'm not going to disagree with that, just so I can avoid someone calling it "confirmation bias."

Was Jesus employing "confirmation bias," when He said it?

Jesus said it -- that settles it.

 

[Freodin]

Um ... when speaking of a country as a whole ... "we" and "us" are appropriate.

Did we win WW2?

The USA did not post an irrelevant youtube video, not make even more irrelevant comments about it.... YOU did.

Take responsibility for your mistakes, not for other peoples achievements.

 

[BarryDesborough]

Barry, this isn't being done in a vacuum.

Jesus said,

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

I'm not going to disagree with that, just so I can avoid someone calling it "confirmation bias."

Was Jesus employing "confirmation bias," when He said it?

Jesus said it -- that settles it.

No. Luke wrote, "And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

There's a difference.

And you swallow it. That's confirmation bias.

 

[AV1611VET]

The USA did not post an irrelevant youtube video, not make even more irrelevant comments about it.... YOU did.

Take responsibility for your mistakes, not for other peoples achievements.

Did we win WW2?

If so, your point can take a hike.

 

[Strathos]

The Allies won WW2... which included more than just the US.

 

[AV1611VET]

Jesus said,

No. Luke wrote,

I would say right here is where your problem lies.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Allies won WW2... which included more than just the US.

Did we win WW2?

 

[Strathos]

"We" meaning who?

Obviously not you and me, as we weren't born yet.

 

[BarryDesborough]

Did we win WW2?

Who is "we"? Were you a combattant?

 

[BarryDesborough]

I would say right here is where your problem lies.

Well, the book is called "Luke", is it not?

 

[AV1611VET]

"We" meaning who?

Obviously not you and me, as we weren't born yet.

You guys can't answer a simple question like that, can you?

That's too bad.

I'll proudly say we won WW2.

But then -- I'm not a scientist.

 

[BarryDesborough]

You guys can't answer a simple question like that, can you?

That's too bad.

I'll proudly say we won WW2.

But then -- I'm not a scientist.

Nor where you a combattant.

 

[Freodin]

You guys can't answer a simple question like that, can you?

That's too bad.

I'll proudly say we won WW2.

But then -- I'm not a scientist.

No, sorry, you didn't. We won WW2.