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[AV1611VET]

Genesis 1:27 [ESV] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

 

[HitchSlap]

Were you there?

 

[CabVet]

Every time I read this "pwnd" word this is the image that comes to mind:

 

[KentuckyAtheist]

I'm more interested in the verse right before that one, Genesis 1:26

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth

So apparently there's multiple gods hanging around, or maybe just one god with multiple personality disorder.

 

[Strathos]

I'm more interested in the verse right before that one, Genesis 1:26

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So apparently there's multiple gods hanging around, or maybe just one god with multiple personality disorder.

You ever hear of angels?

 

[Aman777]

I'm more interested in the verse right before that one, Genesis 1:26

[/i]26 And God said, Let Us make man in our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth

So apparently there's multiple gods hanging around, or maybe just one god with multiple personality disorder.

Dear KA, God is One and all of the fulness of the Godhead, dwells in Jesus, BODILY. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all in Him, and SOME of us have joined the Trinity Spiritually, when we were created in God's Image, or born again Spiritually, in Christ. God is Love and everyone in Christ is in Love, or in God, and He is within us Spiritually, Eternally.

In Love,
Aman

 

[KentuckyAtheist]

Considering everything in the old testament, the christian god is anything but a god of love. And the idea of the trinity is just as contradictory as anything else in the bible. If god is jesus is god then why are there only a few points in the bible where the plural pronoun is used? The genesis verse I mentioned and the story of the tower of babal comes to mind right off, where god uses "us". Was jesus on vacation all the other times when god uses "I" all the other times?

And yeah, I've heard of angels. They're as make-belief as any gods or devils.

 

[AV1611VET]

Considering everything in the old testament, the christian god is anything but a god of love.

I have a feeling that if God came to Earth as a human: raised the dead, healed the sick, and preached forgiveness; you would still be an atheist.

Just a feeling though ... I could be wrong.

And the idea of the trinity is just as contradictory as anything else in the bible.

It should be contradictory.* It violates the Laws of Non-contradiction and Non-locality; leaving scientists scratching themselves raw trying to figure it out.

If god is jesus is god then why are there only a few points in the bible where the plural pronoun is used?

The plural pronoun is appropriate when the Godhead is conversing among themselves.

The context usually decides which pronoun to use.

You wouldn't say, "They died on the cross," -- you would say, "He died on the cross."

The genesis verse I mentioned and the story of the tower of babal comes to mind right off, where god uses "us". Was jesus on vacation all the other times when god uses "I" all the other times?

No, chief.

Jesus was in a state of [what is called] ontological subordination; and I mean no offense here, but judging from the way you spell, I think I'll stop right here and not try to explain it.

If, on the other hand, you were a scientist, then I would explain it to you with respect to the movie file in my profile, so you could deny it on principle; but trying to explain it to those without a degree ... well, then I have a feeling you would deny it from ignorance.

Again -- no offense.

And yeah, I've heard of angels. They're as make-belief as any gods or devils.

Interesting faux pas you're making here.

You know the Bible ... right down to the pronouns; but when it comes to angels, which are quite prominent throughout the Bible, you choose to say, "I've heard of angels."

You know what?

Maybe I should explain Ontological Subordination to you.

* It's actually a paradox.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Genesis 1:27 [ESV] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

As Abbie Smith says at the top of her ERV blog "If we are made in God's image then God is made of gag, pol and env."

 

[KentuckyAtheist]

Saying "no offense" after a string of insults is like saying "sorry" while hitting the gas pedal at a red light. Just saying.

And you can explain it all you want. It doesn't change the fact that you are making the assumption that the bible is reliable and accurate in the information it presents. As it has not met that burden of proof to any degree beyond any other religious text throughout history, you can craft whatever convinient excuses you need to try and make it fit the evidence and facts of reality you want and it doesn't change the facts.

And until I saw evidence to support that a god existed, came to earth in human form and violated several laws of physics, then you'd be correct that I would dismiss the claims.

 

[Aman777]

Considering everything in the old testament, the christian god is anything but a god of love. And the idea of the trinity is just as contradictory as anything else in the bible.

Dear KA, God is not a God of Love....God IS Love. That's how He can be everywhere at the same time. He can be in every believer and is, and yet never get tired of doing good. Your idea of God is opposite the Truth. It agrees with Satan, whom you don't believe in either. Do you?

If god is jesus is god then why are there only a few points in the bible where the plural pronoun is used?

Genesis chapter one uses the Plural form Exclusively. It uses the term Elohim which means, The Judges, It's The Trinity, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. When God says "Let US make man in OUR Image", God is saying Let Us (The Trinity) create a new creature in OUR Image, or in Christ, Spiritually. It takes the agreement of the Trinity to "create." That's how we KNOW that God is STILL working today, and that He will NOT rest or cease creating mankind in Christ, until the last sinner to be saved is saved. This is a future event at the end of the present 6th Day.

The genesis verse I mentioned and the story of the tower of babal comes to mind right off, where god uses "us". Was jesus on vacation all the other times when god uses "I" all the other times?

You are obviously confused. Get yourself a King James Version of Scripture and read Genesis 1. The word "God" is used exclusively. Beginning at Genesis 2:4, the term LORD God is used. Normally, throughout Scripture, when the term God (Elohim) is used, it is speaking of the invisible Spirit of God, or the Father. In the verses about Babel, the narrative is speaking of the LORD (Heb-YHWH) physcially coming down to scatter people over the face of the whole Earth. It's the Son or Jesus.

When you see the term LORD or LORD God, the verses are usually speaking of YHWH/Jesus, the Son, the only God ever formed or that ever will be formed, PHYSICALLY. Notice that God tells Noah to take 2 of every kind, but LORD God tells Noah to take 2 of each unclean and 7 of the clean animals. Noah did BOTH.

I say normally and usually since there are exceptions. The Lord said to my Lord, David said. The Father said to the Son is the indication. This should help you separate the Father from the Son.

Remember that NO man has EVER seen nor will EVER see God (Elohim), for He is the invisible Spirit of Love and exists physically, ONLY in Jesus. Jesus is the incarnation or physical Image of the invisible Spirit of God. In Him dwelleth ALL of the fulness of the Godhead Bodily. Colossians 2:9 KJV - For in him dwelleth all the fulness of - Bible Gateway Jesus is the ONLY God you will ever see. Jesus is LORD. Jesus IS God, bodily, physically.

Jesus is Brighter than the Noonday Sun. When He returns the Sun will be darkened and Moon will be like blood, and every eye on this Planet will see Jesus coming out of the darkness. Some will pray that the rocks will fall on them, but some of us will welcome Him with open arms. I can hardly wait. How bout you?

In Love,
Aman

 

[KentuckyAtheist]

So god is love? So it's because he loved everyone so much that he ordered unruly children to be stoned beyond the gates of the city for disobeying their parents? Or declares that if a woman is raped the man's punishment is to pay the father 50 sheckles of silver and take the woman as his wife? Or when he told Moses that the virgins among the Midianites were to be kept as spoils of war but that any woman that had known a man was to be put to death? Or how about the story of Jepthah, who killed and sacrificed his daughter to god after winning a victory in battle?

And to answer your question, I believe in satan as much as I believe in God, Zeus, Ra and Odin. Which is to say, not at all.

 

[Aman777]

So god is love? So it's because he loved everyone so much that he ordered unruly children to be stoned beyond the gates of the city for disobeying their parents? Or declares that if a woman is raped the man's punishment is to pay the father 50 sheckles of silver and take the woman as his wife? Or when he told Moses that the virgins among the Midianites were to be kept as spoils of war but that any woman that had known a man was to be put to death? Or how about the story of Jepthah, who killed and sacrificed his daughter to god after winning a victory in battle?

And to answer your question, I believe in satan as much as I believe in God, Zeus, Ra and Odin. Which is to say, not at all.

Dear KA, It's obvious that you know nothing of God. God KNOWS the FUTURE of children, women, and everything else. AFTER people have left this Earth, there is the Judgment, and God already KNOWS that Judgment.
God shows LOVE when He eliminates those who have rejected Him, for they would destroy Heaven for all of God's Children. WHO are YOU to question the Creator and Judge of everyone?

To blaspheme Him assures that your JUDGE, will know immediately of your Failure to believe In Jesus. That's fatal. I am sorry for your unbelief, and really sorry for your future, which God tells us is terrible. Your unbelief is what seals your fate. It's the ONLY sin. Faith in Jesus is your ONLY hope. No threats, just FACT.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

As Abbie Smith says at the top of her ERV blog "If we are made in God's image then God is made of gag, pol and env."

Dear Cheeky, Will you follow Abbie Smith to Hades? Or will you repent of your ignorance of your sure Salvation in Jesus?

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

Saying "no offense" after a string of insults is like saying "sorry" while hitting the gas pedal at a red light. Just saying.

And you can explain it all you want. It doesn't change the fact that you are making the assumption that the bible is reliable and accurate in the information it presents. As it has not met that burden of proof to any degree beyond any other religious text throughout history, you can craft whatever convinient excuses you need to try and make it fit the evidence and facts of reality you want and it doesn't change the facts.

And until I saw evidence to support that a god existed, came to earth in human form and violated several laws of physics, then you'd be correct that I would dismiss the claims.

Dear KA, I have listed several things in Genesis which NO ancient man could have possibly WRITTEN and YOU have not refuted a single one of them. God's Holy Word is NOT to believed ONLY by Faith, since it is supported by evidence, which you have rejected.

I find it interesting that you publicly proclaim your unbelief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the Scriptures. THAT Gospel is what MUST be accepted by the Gift of Faith, which God gives us. Looks like you missed your opportunity for life more abundantly. I'm sorry. Eternal Life is a terrirble thing to waste. Your future if you don't repent, is that of a Godhater.

In Love,
Aman

 

[BarryDesborough]

Dear KA, I have listed several things in Genesis which NO ancient man could have possibly WRITTEN and YOU have not refuted a single one of them. God's Holy Word is NOT to believed ONLY by Faith, since it is supported by evidence, which you have rejected.

I find it interesting that you publicly proclaim your unbelief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the Scriptures. THAT Gospel is what MUST be accepted by the Gift of Faith, which God gives us. Looks like you missed your opportunity for life more abundantly. I'm sorry. Eternal Life is a terrirble thing to waste. Your future if you don't repent, is that of a Godhater.

In Love,
Aman

http://www.christianforums.com/t7748257/

 

[Aman777]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7748257/

Dear Barry, I've already destroyed your ideas there, but you keep running and hiding from this Fact. Why don't you meet me in a Challenge where you can't hide? Is it because you already know that I have destroyed your foolish ideas?

In Love,
Aman

 

[BarryDesborough]

Dear Barry, I've already destroyed your ideas there, but you keep running and hiding from this Fact. Why don't you meet me in a Challenge where you can't hide? Is it because you already know that I have destroyed your foolish ideas?

In Love,
Aman

http://www.christianforums.com/t7754347-post63328856/#post63328856

 

[Split Rock]

Genesis 1:27 [ESV] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

Why are you quoting from the imperfect English Standard Version, instead of the perfect King James 1611 Version???

 

[AV1611VET]

Why are you quoting from the imperfect English Standard Version, instead of the perfect King James 1611 Version???

Well ... you know? catchy title and all!