Esau's choice

[FireDragon76]

No, it's not "analogous." Although, since the OP is clearly political in nature, it might be anachronistic. Its overall contextual application in connection with its axiological and epistemic framing clearly make it incomparable.

IOW, voting and working for the wrong person isn't analogous or typological to repeating the error of Esau. Besides, Esau was still blessed by God, just with "less." See Deuteronomy 2:5. So, this whole trope of Jacob vs. Esau is misapplied here, even if some typological case can be made for 'Esau' in the Prophets.

All this spiritualized political mudslinging by those on the extreme opposite sides of the spectrum needs to stop. Save it for the true problem makers, those who are either true Nazis or Communists----or for the Drug Cartels, or for those who think Solomon's lifestyle was heroic, or bold, or blessed----not simply those who don't fully align or advocate, or who aren't 100% "all-in" for the specific political positions that are so frequently vying with each other and jockeying for position.

(And no, I'm not implying that Progressives are wrong wholesale on every single issue they open their mouths about. So, I don't want to see any attempts to imply or infer anything about my own apparent position on politics based solely on what I've just said.)

How is it invalid? The entire New Testament is built on typological reasoning.

Secondly, I think you misunderstand @Maine Progressive . This isn't an appeal to political partisanship, but spiritual discernment. The notion that spiritual discernment wouldn't have potential downstream political consequences isn't supported by the biblical witness.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

How is it invalid? The entire New Testament is built on typological reasoning.

Secondly, I think you misunderstand @Maine Progressive . This isn't an appeal to political partisanship, but spiritual discernment. The notion that spiritual discernment wouldn't have potential downstream political consequences isn't supported by the biblical witness.

The New Testament does utilize typological reasoning, particularly in connecting events and figures from the Old Testament to Jesus Christ and his mission. However, it is not solely built on typology; it also includes direct teachings, narratives, historical reflection and other forms of interpretation.

And I for one am not of the position that just because Jesus or Peter or Paul used typology in their own teaching that we're likewise authorized to assume that whatever typological "exlpanations" we can come up with today somehow carry much, if any, weight whatsoever where the Christian Faith is concerned.

In my view, if what you're saying about spiritual discernment in connection to political consequences has cogency, then both parties should shut their yaps and sit down for failing egregiously to represent New Testament truths. Of course, someone could always cite the discordances I have in my own life and outlook and the New Testament as well since I put philosophy first and the Bible second.

I'm sorry I have to disagree with you, but my views are what they are and are driven solidly by my own sources.