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Featured Equality for all

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by mathinspiration, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    Being a king is a worldly phenomenon. In the kingdom heaven, we are all children of the Lord.
     
  2. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    I don't have to search for scripture to prove that the Lord loves us. That is a given.
     
  3. dreadnought

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    We are a poor church. We have a couple of volunteers who do most of the maintenance. The pastor might think he is above the others, but without those two volunteers, the church would have gone broke.
     
  4. Michael Collum

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    The bible supports a concept related to that. It says that whether the person is a citizen or a visitor, the same laws apply. Even Israel didn't practice that.
     
  5. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    Theologically? Yes. All are condemned under the Law as sinners, none are righteous, all have fallen short; through Adam death has come to all; Christ has died for all, God desires that all be saved, and in Christ resurrection from the dead has come to all.

    Ecclesiastically? Yes, "For there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ"

    Political equality? Well the Bible doesn't establish a Christian secular politic. The Bible does not know a Christian-run state or society, or a state or society in which Christians hold the seats of power. So the Bible, on that front, is completely silent.

    But as far as the Law and the Gospel go, and as for how things ought to be in the Church, the answer is yes.

    Should Christians support social equality? I would say yes, on the basis of Christ's own commandments to us, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and "Love your neighbor as yourself." There is no room in Christian ethics for tribalistic mentalities of "me and my own", as we are called out from ourselves toward others in love.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  6. ewq1938

    ewq1938 Chewbacca kree! Supporter

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    Kings will exist in the eternity as well
     
  7. dreadnought

    dreadnought Lip service isn't really service. Supporter

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    We have one king - Jesus Christ.
     
  8. ewq1938

    ewq1938 Chewbacca kree! Supporter

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    People will have other kings as well.

    Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
    Rev 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    Rev 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
     
  9. mindlight

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    Equality of worth - we are all made in Gods image.
    Equality of sinfulness and need of redemption - Noone is intrinsically righteous and all need to be saved.
    Equality of opportunity for salvation - Christs sacrifice is available for all.
    Equality of potential once saved - all believers share in a glorious future.

    But there is no equivalence between good and evil, believers are saved and non believers are going to hell, have no hope and no future. The parable of the Talents makes it clear that equality of outcome may not exist in this life or even the next. It seems clear that equality of opportunity also does not exist in this life. There should be no favouritism between rich and poor, we are equal before the law. But I suppose before God the difference between a billionaire and a pauper is so minute as to be a matter of indifference the real measure of our value is how we respond to Him in good times and in bad ones.
     
  10. AnticipateHisComing

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    Not what you said. Not what you were asked to support with scripture. Your repeating "the Lord doesn't play favorites" but failure to support with scripture and refute scripture given to counter your statement only shows an unconvincing personal opinion.
     
  11. AnticipateHisComing

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    The anecdotal does not refute the apostle.
     
  12. AnticipateHisComing

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    Could you refine your question?

    Are you asking about equality in decisions, judgments for all?
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    Are you asking about equality of distribution of God's gifts/blessings?

    Two different questions with two different answers.
     
  13. AnticipateHisComing

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    Certainly Jesus taught we should treat others the same, but today the term social equality has expanded to include things Jesus did not teach, such as economic equality.
     
  14. dreadnought

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    But we are of the Kingdom of God. We follow just the one king - Jesus Christ.
     
  15. dreadnought

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    Some things are given, one of them being that the Lord loves us. It is tiresome to search for scripture for obvious things. However, John 3:16 will back my assertion that the Lord loves us.
     
  16. dreadnought

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    My anecdote is what it is.
     
  17. AnticipateHisComing

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    What is tiresome is getting you to support your statement that "The Lord doesn't play favorites." I even highlighted it in red.
     
  18. dreadnought

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    Love is about doing unto others as you would have them do unto you. If I were your boss, would you want me to show favoritism towards someone else in my employ? So maybe that is what you are looking for: Matt 22:39
     
  19. ewq1938

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    Nope. Jesus is the King of kings which means there are other, lower kings which I have already proven. What you do is explain why there are kings (plural) in the eternity.
     
  20. Jipsah

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    I think very quick look around you will suffice to who that no two of us are equal in any respect.
     
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