Episode 3:17 (Apr 18th)

[LovesToRead]

Hmmm, show's over and I'm the first post?

Well!

This one had me from the very start, eh Brother?

Excellent, complicated and confusing. At yet, so many more details continue to unfold.

 

[snoochface]

Too tired to post much tonight, so just this: The picture on the head monk dude's desk, it flashed by quickly, but when I went back and looked I would swear the woman in it was the woman Desmond met in the jewelry shop in his last flashback. I hope someone on the net posts screen caps of that tomorrow.

One more quick thing: I think the girl at the end was Ruth, but I'm not sure because it looked more like Sanjaya.

 

[Morghaine]

Too tired to post much tonight, so just this: The picture on the head monk dude's desk, it flashed by quickly, but when I went back and looked I would swear the woman in it was the woman Desmond met in the jewelry shop in his last flashback. I hope someone on the net posts screen caps of that tomorrow.

One more quick thing: I think the girl at the end was Ruth, but I'm not sure because it looked more like Sanjaya.

You're right about the picture, I was taping the show, and ran it backwards to look at the frame, and it most definitely is the strange lady from the jewelry shop - didn't she tell him that he wouldn't marry Penny in that flashback?

 

[Thinker]

Hmmm...

Somehow I find myself wondering if Charlie makes it to next season. Initially, it looked like he wasn't going to make it through the episode.

A Jack-Kate-Sawyer-Juliette love wrecktangle? Theres this word for women like Kate...what is it?....

An observation about the unseen helicopter. Helicopters are short range craft. That boat Benry gave Michael and Walt at the end of Season II is also a short range craft. More and more, I am thinking along the lines of civilization `just over the horizon' - no more than 100-200 miles off.

 

[knownbeforetime]

The parachuter girl was not Ruth. Her skin and hair were too dark...

 

[kimber1]

oh man i loved it. when i flipped to the station and saw they showed last week's episode i freaked since i missed part of it so i got to get a double dose

two best lines:

bug-eyed b****&*
do you want me to make you a mixed tape?

i could have wrung kate's scrawny neck when she went to sawyer after seeing jack and juliette. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr and poor guy, he knows it too.

i thought it was actually kind of sweet the "bonding" that jack and sawyer did with the ping pong game. or was sawyer trying to feel him out to figure out what was up with kate jumping him? either way it was nice to see them not at each others throats.

desmond.....a MONK????????? and a drunk monk at that
I'm mad at him too though. i think he was actually going to let charlie die even though he knew about the arrow. but then at the last minute his conscience worked on him. he made that "sacrifice" like Abraham. all i could think after he saved him when they found the girl hanging from the parachute was "OH NO she's dead now because he saved charlie instead."

but who IS she? we were thinking ruth too (lots of biblical inferences this episode) but closer look i don't think so. she almost reminded me of cindy.

i also wonder after last week's episode again. even though we know juliette was now sent as a spy....does she want to get off the island enough to turn on ben and could jack end up "turning" her so she goes back to the others in a week as a spy for the losties? at any rate i did feel pretty bad for her about her sisterand the whole cancer thing.

 

[MtDoraAngel]

Too tired to post much tonight, so just this: The picture on the head monk dude's desk, it flashed by quickly, but when I went back and looked I would swear the woman in it was the woman Desmond met in the jewelry shop in his last flashback. I hope someone on the net posts screen caps of that tomorrow.

One more quick thing: I think the girl at the end was Ruth, but I'm not sure because it looked more like Sanjaya.

Sanjaya. LMAO Snooch.

My first thought was Ruth with short hair. I'm going to watch again before I post any more.

Except fore one thing. The opening scene had me screaming. [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth], don't die! Demonds wake up. Say it ain't so. Relief.

More later.

hugs to the group.

 

[MtDoraAngel]

Hmmm...

A Jack-Kate-Sawyer-Juliette love wrecktangle? Theres this word for women like Kate...what is it?....

Ho!

 

[LovesToRead]

Too tired to post much tonight, so just this: The picture on the head monk dude's desk, it flashed by quickly, but when I went back and looked I would swear the woman in it was the woman Desmond met in the jewelry shop in his last flashback. I hope someone on the net posts screen caps of that tomorrow.

One more quick thing: I think the girl at the end was Ruth, but I'm not sure because it looked more like Sanjaya.

Sanjaya! A fellow AI fan, I see!

 

[LovesToRead]

Hmmm...

Somehow I find myself wondering if Charlie makes it to next season. Initially, it looked like he wasn't going to make it through the episode.

A Jack-Kate-Sawyer-Juliette love wrecktangle? Theres this word for women like Kate...what is it?....

An observation about the unseen helicopter. Helicopters are short range craft. That boat Benry gave Michael and Walt at the end of Season II is also a short range craft. More and more, I am thinking along the lines of civilization `just over the horizon' - no more than 100-200 miles off.

To one of my very first Lostie buddy-buds! You stuck with me, encouraging me to get into the show, just last year! Thanks again, Thinker for all your input and insight.


[move][sign] Happiest of Birthdays! [/sign][/move]

God bless you, my friend.

LTR

 

[FatBurger]

Unfortunately there are only around 100 screenshots from last night, so there are a lot of missed details. I can't get a second look at the picture on the monk's desk.

Penny lives in Carslyle - same as Boone's last name, but spelled differently (I dont' remember how either are spelled).
Lucy says "It's a good thing you weren't found by a shepherd" - Jack's last name.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

Pic on monk's desk- definitely Mrs. Hawking

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

I am most positive that they are NOT the same person.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

Ok, here are my little interesting finds:

A "Catch-22" refers to a no-win situation or a double bind. The literary sense is a situation in which two situations depend on each other to occur. In this episode it refers to the predestination paradox - Desmond only goes on the mission because he sees flashes of him doing so. But the flashes wouldn't have occurred unless he had gone on the mission. So where did the flashes come from?

"Moriah Vineyards" is an anagram of both 'harmed visionary' and 'diversionary ham' and also 'Dharma vise irony'.

The copy of Catch-22 found in the jungle was titled in Portuguese (Ardil-22), the same language the men were speaking in the listening station at the end of the season 2 finale, "Live Together, Die Alone"

The satellite phone's menu icons in order from top left to bottom right are: GPS, "Home" symbol, Files, Clock, Phone, Settings, Mail, and Uplink. Below that is a hazard sign that says: "INTERNAL ERROR". And below that still is: Calendar, Email, Tools, Main, Dock, Weather, Stocks, and Text.

• Who is the parachutist and how is she connected to Desmond?
• Was she alone in the helicopter?
• Why was she in an outfit for high altitudes, but came in via a helicopter and relatively close to the ground?
• Did Penny send her to find Desmond? If so, why?
• Did saving Charlie change anything?
• Why did the Helicopter crash? Was it just coincidence that it crashed near the cable?
• Where did the Helicopter take off from?
• What is Brother Campbell's relationship to Ms. Hawking?
• What is the relationship between the monastery and Charles Widmore?
• Why was the sat phone out of power or broken when the parachutist reached the Island?
• What would have Desmond done originally if the flashes hadn't given him so specific a mission?
• Is letting Charlie die really what Desmond must "sacrifice"?
• Was the bag the parachutist's? If so, why did she have the same photo of Desmond and Penny that Desmond has?

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

Here is my theory for the picture found in the back pack.

I think that Pen sent this girl to find Desmond and sent her with a copy of the picture so that she knew what he looked like (or who to look for)

 

[sf49erfan]

This 10:00 pm start is killing me! I had to watch the show at lunch today.

Penny has people looking for Desmond. Remember the people in the snow at the end of last season? I'm assuming the woman is bounty-hunter of sorts. Penny hired her to find him.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

^^ Ditto... going to bed at 11 is just KILLING me!!!

 

[FatBurger]

Here is my theory for the picture found in the back pack.

I think that Pen sent this girl to find Desmond and sent her with a copy of the picture so that she knew what he looked like (or who to look for)

And as a bonus, it proves she was actually sent by Penny.

 

[CJF]

Loved last nights episode! Desmond is my favorite character, right now, so I'm glad the episode was on him. Although I was terrified for Charlie. For a second I thought Des was actually gonna let him die. *whew*

 

[MtDoraAngel]

Speculation only!

It was NOT a helicopter that they heard but a plane instead. One could not eject themselves from a helicopter but instead would jump, therefore would fall to the water below and not end up in a tree.

The woop woop woop sound was not helicopter blades failing but a plane spiraling downward.

Penny is on a ship nearby and sent the mystery woman to find Desmond. This is why she has the picture of him. For identification purposes.

Jacob is the son if Isaac (the healer Rose went to see) Isaac made reference in one of the episodes about finding THAT place with such magnetic powers. In the bible Isaac was to sacrifice his only son, Jacob. Maybe the healer Isaac sacrificed his son Jacob to the island that heals people.

I know its a far fetch but you never know.