Entering His Rest Is God's True Sabbath

[Minister Monardo]

The Jews observed the Sabbath but failed to enter God's Rest.
This is the Logos behind the commandment.
Hebrews 4:
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest,
any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached
did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath,
if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spoke in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, if they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remained that some must enter therein, and they to whom
it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limited a certain day, saying in David, today, after so long a time as it is said,
"Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts."
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remains therefore a rest to the people of God.

So now we can define the Sabbath as the Logos interprets, and Jesus taught the people.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

John 5:
15 The man departed and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because
He had done these things on the Sabbath.
17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”

Is there any Sabbath restriction on this Logos?
John 14:
12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also;
and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.

 

[Soyeong]

In Hebrews 3:18-19, they did not enter into God's rest because of their unbelief/disobedience, and in Ezekiel 20:13, it specifically mentions that they greatly profaned God's Sabbaths. In Galatians 4:4, Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it, and he was sinless so he never broke it, including never breaking the Sabbath.

 

[BobRyan]

The Jews observed the Sabbath but failed to enter God's Rest.
This is the Logos behind the commandment.
Hebrews 4:
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest,
any of you should seem to come short of it.

IN Heb 11 we see a chapter full of Jews that kept the Sabbath AND entered the "rest" of salvation.
In Matt 17 we see Moses and Elijah standing in glory with Christ on the mount of transfiguration - they too were fully saved in that rest.

Christ said in Mark 2:27 that God's Sabbath was "made FOR mankind" as a blessing.

Heb 3 speaks of Moses as a great example of a child of God fully accepted by God.
Heb 4 then references Israel in rebellion against God at the borders of Canaan .

The Apostle John says that "Sin IS" by definition "transgression of the Law" of God. 1 John 3:4

and says in that same book "these things I write that you sin NOT" 1 John 2:1

Rebellion against the word of God was never the path to salvation.

 

[sparow]

The Jews observed the Sabbath but failed to enter God's Rest.
This is the Logos behind the commandment.
Hebrews 4:
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest,
any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached
did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath,
if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spoke in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, if they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remained that some must enter therein, and they to whom
it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limited a certain day, saying in David, today, after so long a time as it is said,
"Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts."
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remains therefore a rest to the people of God.

So now we can define the Sabbath as the Logos interprets, and Jesus taught the people.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

John 5:
15 The man departed and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because
He had done these things on the Sabbath.
17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”

Is there any Sabbath restriction on this Logos?
John 14:
12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also;
and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.

What Israel failed to do was enter into the covenant, they failed to have a personal relationship with God; the Sabbath is only kept when all the Law is kept, or the covenant is fulfilled; the Sabbath rest is from work but also rest from sin, so the Sabbath is a sign.

So, are you saying the Sabbath is not Lawful, or not necessary, or what?

 

[DamianWarS]

Jesus was born under the law, so he was obligated to obey it, and he was sinless so he never broke it, including never breaking the Sabbath.

Jesus states in May 12:12 that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. Jesus, being a practitioner of this goodness he speaks of would be able to desecrate the law, (as he alludes to in v5) but still be lawful. Christ seems to be motived by this goodness that is always lawful and is less interested in the letter.

 

[Soyeong]

Jesus states in May 12:12 that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. Jesus, being a practitioner of this goodness he speaks of would be able to desecrate the law, (as he alludes to in v5) but still be lawful. Christ seems to be motived by this goodness that is always lawful and is less interested in the letter.

Jesus set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God’s law, so it is incorrect to interpret that passage as Jesus diminishing the importance of doing what it instructs. It is not about goodness over lawfulness, but about the law being a hierarchy. A number of God’s laws appear to conflict with each other, such as with God commanding to rest of the Sabbath while also command priests to make offerings on the Sabbath (Numbers 28:9-10), however, it was not the case that priests were forced to sin by breaking one of the two laws no matter what they chose to do, but that the lesser command was never intended to be understood as preventing the greater command from being obeyed. This is why Jesus said that priests who did their duties on the Sabbath were held innocent, why David and his men were held innocent, and why Jesus defended his disciples as being innocent. Likewise, this is why it is lawful to circumcise a baby on the 8th day if it happens to fall on the Sabbath, why it is lawful to get an ox out of a ditch on the Sabbath, and so forth. Some Pharisees has reasoned that it is unlawful to work on the Sabbath and that healing is work, therefore it is unlawful to heal on the Sabbath, however, we are also instructed to love our neighbor as ourselves and no law was intended to be understood as preventing us from obeying the greatest to commandments, which is why it was lawful for Jesus to heal on the Sabbath.

 

[DamianWarS]

It is not about goodness over lawfulness

Indeed. It's about goodness being lawful. I'll quote Christ's words again "it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath" (Mt 12:12). From this we can know goodness is not lawless it is lawful. Christ does nothing unlawful, nor does he encourage to do the same. He does however put goodness over the works of the law.

This helps to qualify verses like Gal 5:14 "For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" Might Jesus and Paul be speaking of the same thing?

Makes you wonder if all you did was goodness then wouldn't all your acts also be lawful? If we are goal driven is it better to be the letter-of-law driven or goodness driven? NT teaching emphasis the later.

 

[BobRyan]

Jesus states in May 12:12 that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. Jesus, being a practitioner of this goodness he speaks of would be able to desecrate the law, (as he alludes to in v5) but still be lawful. Christ seems to be motived by this goodness that is always lawful and is less interested in the letter.

Christ never claimed to break the law of God.

Matt 5
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

There is no "break God's Law for Jesus if you love of Jesus" teaching by Jesus or by His followers.

"THIS IS the LOVE of God - that we KEEP His Commandments" 1 John 5:3-4

"This first Commandment with a promise is - Honor your mother and father" Eph 6:1-2

 

[DamianWarS]

Christ never claimed to break the law of God.

Indeed, what Christ does is lawful. I'm not sure if you understand this (since I just got finished saying the same thing) Again Christ tells us, "It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath" (Mt 12:12), ergo goodness is lawful. There is no law-breaking; there is only law-keeping just through the mechanism of goodness over the letter (and it is lawful)

Jesus tells us the two greatest commandments (Mat 22:36-40) he starts with a lofty broadly defined "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind" No one can or would disagree with that but it is also widely open to interpretation for example what does loving God with all your heart soul and mind look like? Jesus then tells us the second greatest to "Love your neighbor as yourself" The two are dovetailed together, in that our action toward our neighbour is directly translated into action toward God (this also includes inaction). if you are driven by this goodness how could you break the law of God? I see only lawful action.