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The Catholic Church differs from Protestantism in the details of what happens at the time of the rapture by not in the fact that there will be a rapture. It's in Sacred Scripture which, along with divine Tradition, is part of the Catholic Church's deposit of faith.
"then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord." - St. Paul, 1 Thess 4:17
I was thinking of the October 7th date actually, not the blood moon.
The role of the prophet was to afflict the comfortable and to comfort the afflicted. So they were not liked by many.
“Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you." - Jesus
Chris McConn of the eBible fellowship according to the list I posted a few pages back. It's an interesting list, beginning with dates as early as 69, and the Oct 7th date, which I first saw on the news, as the most recent. There were a lot in the 1800s.and who gave a date of Oct 7th?
Maybe that's exactly what the Catholic Workers movement is trying to achieve, a God centered socialistic way of living.And there's no such thing as a God-centered socialist government. Socialism makes the government their god.
You need to cite the offical Catholic teaching of this rapture you're talking about because I have never heard of this in over 20 years of practicing and studying this faith.THANK YOU!
to say anything else is to toss the baby out with the bath water.
cite? The official teaching of this Catholic rapture.The Catholic Church differs from Protestantism in the details of what happens at the time of the rapture by not in the fact that there will be a rapture. It's in Sacred Scripture which, along with divine Tradition, is part of the Catholic Church's deposit of faith.
"then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord." - St. Paul, 1 Thess 4:17
Speaking of the OBOB faith rules, do you remember when you gave your opinion (here) that marriage is a "human invention" and called it "jibberish" to believe that God invented marriage?
Chris McConn of the eBible fellowship according to the list I posted a few pages back. It's an interesting list, beginning with dates as early as 69, and the Oct 7th date, which I first saw on the news, as the most recent. There were a lot in the 1800s.
The official teaching of the Catholic Church on the rapture is 1 Thess 4:17. Since St. Paul says that it's going to happen, we believe it. The difference is that some Protestants have mixed it with fictional writing. And the Catholic Church usually calls it "the bodily resurrection" rather than using the word "rapture". Here's an example of how the Catholic Church views it:cite? The official teaching of this Catholic rapture.
You need to cite the offical Catholic teaching of this rapture you're talking about because I have never heard of this in over 20 years of practicing and studying this faith.
Not what the rockbotprots mean when they talk about "The Rapture", which is more about revenge fantasy to everyone who was ever mean to them than anything else.The official teaching of the Catholic Church on the rapture is 1 Thess 4:17. Since St. Paul says that it's going to happen, we believe it. The difference is that some Protestants have mixed it with fictional writing. And the Catholic Church usually calls it "the bodily resurrection" rather than using the word "rapture". Here's an example of how the Catholic Church views it:
"After the course of our earthly life, participation in complete intimacy with the Father thus comes through our insertion into Christ's paschal mystery. St Paul emphasizes our meeting with Christ in heaven at the end of time with a vivid spatial image: 'Then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words' (1 Thes 4:17-18)."Here's what an early Church father said about it:
- St. John Paul II, General Audience (21 July 1999)
"If He is about to descend, on what account shall we be caught up? For the sake of honor. For when a king drives into a city, those who are in honor go out to meet him; but the condemned await the judge within. And upon the coming of an affectionate father, his children indeed, and those who are worthy to be his children, are taken out in a chariot, that they may see and kiss him; but those of the domestics who have offended remain within. We are carried upon the chariot of our Father. For He received Him up in the clouds, and 'we shall be caught up in the clouds.' Acts 1:9 Do you see how great is the honor? And as He descends, we go forth to meet Him, and, what is more blessed than all, so we shall be with Him."
- St. John Chrysostom, Homily 8 on First Thessalonians
I cant speak about it because i know nothing of it but we certainly could use a true Catholic party who's ideas are based on Catholic social justice. Or we all could just heed the call to conversion and repentance and get this society on the right track. The one we're on now will take us straight to hell no matter what anyone else says. So what if the party now wants to do a few seemingly good things for the poor, immigrants, the environment. It comes with a price tag of apostasy.Maybe that's exactly what the Catholic Workers movement is trying to achieve, a God centered socialistic way of living.
I think the context here is important. I was responding to Armoured's post where he rudely accused Pdudgeon of teaching Protestantism. While it's true that Pdudgeon comes from a Protestant background and is relatively new to Catholicism, it's also true that she has been diligently learning the Catholic faith and has been making great strides in this effort. Judging from what I've seen of her posts, I think she probably already knows more about Catholicism than most cradle Catholics do. And she is more faithful to the Magisterium than most western Catholics. She used the word "rapture" but went on to describe a view that is consistent with the Catholic teaching on the end times and bodily resurrection. So considering her fast learning of Catholicism and that she didn't describe the "rapture" in way that was incompatible with Catholicism, I thought it was appropriate to give her the benefit of the doubt by assuming that her use of that word was only a matter of semantics.Not disagreeing with you. Just saying you need to temper how you phrase things because as you know full well we refer to this as the Resurrection of the dead, not the rapture.
of course the conclusion of what you are suggesting (live in the now, forget about the rapture) is to be on the wrong side of the door when it shuts.
the smart people are the ones who have lots of oil, are awake and watching for the Bridegroom, believing His promise that He will come for them.
OBOB. Catholics don't believe in the Rapture nonsense. So feel free to take your sanctimonious snark to a faith forum that does.
The Catholic Church differs from Protestantism in the details of what happens at the time of the rapture by not in the fact that there will be a rapture. It's in Sacred Scripture which, along with divine Tradition, is part of the Catholic Church's deposit of faith.
"then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord." - St. Paul, 1 Thess 4:17
Speaking of the OBOB faith rules, do you remember when you gave your opinion (here) that marriage is a "human invention" and called it "jibberish" to believe that God invented marriage?
Maybe that's exactly what the Catholic Workers movement is trying to achieve, a God centered socialistic way of living.
Not disagreeing with you. Just saying you need to temper how you phrase things because as you know full well we refer to this as the Resurrection of the dead, not the rapture.
I have a problem with the idea that we shouldn't try to make this planet as good, fair and just as possible because it's not heaven. Is it really better to support political viewpoints that are the opposite to keep things bad here as a contrast to the afterlife?i think the problem in that idea would be that this is earth---not heaven.
and as such it would wind up being man's conception of what a theistic compassionate way of life would be,
and not the real thing.
the end result would look something like a golden calf.
That's a straw man and false dichotomy. No one here has said that we shouldn't try to make the world better. We are saying that socialism is not the way to do it. We don't have to choose between having spiritual beliefs and trying to make the world better. There's another thread going on the topic of sports. Notice how no one tells sports fans that because they spend time talking about sports that they don't care about making the world better. But talk about spiritual things and you get attacked.I have a problem with the idea that we shouldn't try to make this planet as good, fair and just as possible because it's not heaven. Is it really better to support political viewpoints that are the opposite to keep things bad here as a contrast to the afterlife?
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