"Embedded Age" Requires Fake Fossils

[lasthero]

Yes, the Big Bang was invented by scientists who have a commitment to explaining origins without the help of Divine revelation. The Big Bang is not science but rather science fiction. The Bible says: “In the beginning God … ”; while scientists affirm: “In the beginning the Big Bang.

The universe is probably much older than 14.7 billion years, while our planet is much younger, and life on planet earth is perhaps measured in double digit thousands of years.

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

 

[RickG]

WOW!!!!!!

I didn't know that!

Stand aside, Genesis 1!

A JESUIT PRIEST!!!!!! is here to set the record straight!

What if he were a Baptist?

 

[TLK Valentine]

WOW!!!!!!

I didn't know that!

Stand aside, Genesis 1!

A JESUIT PRIEST!!!!!! is here to set the record straight!

One less tool for you to use as you set it crooked...

 

[Loudmouth]

Yes, the only thing I would change is to replace the term “invented” with the word “embraced.”

Then you are ignoring the fact that the first person to embrace the Big Bang theory was a Jesuit priest?

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Despite all evidence to the contrary.

Yes!

The Big Bang theory might be myth

“The Big Bang theory suggests that the universe was created from an a single point in the universe but despite years of research, nobody yet knows what triggered the eruption.

It also fails to explain why the Universe has an “almost completely uniform temperature.”

“There does not seem to have been enough time since the birth of the cosmos for it to have reached temperature equilibrium,” researchers explain in the scientific journal, Nature. …”

More: http://nypost.com/2013/09/17/the-big-bang-theory-might-be-myth/

The Big Bang Myth
More: http://www.circlon.com/living-universe/018-big-bang-myth.html

Problems with the Big Bang Theory
· It violates the first law of thermodynamics, which says you can't create or destroy matter or energy. Critics claim that the big bang theory suggests the universe began out of nothing. …

The early inflationary period of the big bang appears to violate the rule that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light …

More: http://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/astronomy-terms/big-bang-theory7.htm

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Then you are ignoring the fact that the first person to embrace the Big Bang theory was a Jesuit priest?

I am not ignoring but rather dismissing the argument. Darwin was also a religious man, and he led the entire world on the wrong theory of origins.

 

[RickG]

I am not ignoring but rather dismissing the argument. Darwin was also a religious man, and he led the entire world on the wrong theory of origins.

Just curious. What conflict is there with the big bang theory with the bible?

 

[RickG]

Problems with the Big Bang Theory
· It violates the first law of thermodynamics, which says you can't create or destroy matter or energy. Critics claim that the big bang theory suggests the universe began out of nothing. …

Well, if the big bang theory actually did claim something from nothing I would agree with you, but it doesn't, rather from a singularity.

 

[Loudmouth]

I am not ignoring but rather dismissing the argument.

You are trying to claim that people were drawn to the BB theory because they didn't believe in God. It would seem to me that counterexamples prove you wrong, especially the counterexample of the person who was first to propose and embrace the theory. If anything, atheist groups were initially leery of the BB theory because of the parallels with Genesis.

Darwin was also a religious man, and he led the entire world on the wrong theory of origins.

Darwin's theory of biodiversity continues to be correct. Ignoring the evidence does not make it go away.

 

[Loudmouth]

“The Big Bang theory suggests that the universe was created from an a single point in the universe but despite years of research, nobody yet knows what triggered the eruption.

We don't need to know the source of the original singularity in order to figure out that the singularity expanded.

It also fails to explain why the Universe has an “almost completely uniform temperature.”

That is what Inflationary theory attempts to explain.

Problems with the Big Bang Theory

· It violates the first law of thermodynamics, which says you can't create or destroy matter or energy. Critics claim that the big bang theory suggests the universe began out of nothing. …

No energy was created or destroyed when the singularity began expanding.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Just curious. What conflict is there with the big bang theory with the bible?

The Bible teaches that God had no beginning. If the universe began as a result of a huge explosion 15 billion years ago, then I have to conclude that God existed since eternity past until the Big Bang doing nothing. Instead of a Big event 15 billion years ago, I choose to believe that there were probably millions of Small Bangs going back countless of billions of years ago.

Remember that the theory of the BB is based on the expansion of the universe, and the calculated age of the universe is dependent of our estimate of the number of stars and galaxies in our universe, but every time we design a bigger telescope, our universe gets larger and larger.

We currently estimate the universe to contain 100 billion galaxies. This number will probably increase the day we build a more powerful telescope. Since we do not know the limits of our universe, this suggests that our calculations might be off by a huge magnitude. Besides, many scientists are beginning to question the theory of the BB.

The Bible says “In the beginning God,” while science claims “In the beginning the BB.” This leads me to believe that my theory of beginnings is more in harmony with what the Bible teaches.

Ref.:

 

[RickG]

The Bible teaches that God had no beginning. If the universe began as a result of a huge explosion 15 billion years ago, then I have to conclude that God existed since eternity past until the Big Bang doing nothing. Instead of a Big event 15 billion years ago, I choose to believe that there were probably millions of Small Bangs going back countless of billions of years ago.

Remember that the theory of the BB is based on the expansion of the universe, and the calculated age of the universe is dependent of our estimate of the number of stars and galaxies in our universe, but every time we design a bigger telescope, our universe gets larger and larger.

We currently estimate the universe to contain 100 galaxies. This number will probably increase the day we build a more powerful telescope. Since we do not know the limits of our universe, this suggests that our calculations might be off by a huge magnitude. Besides, many scientists are beginning to question the theory of the BB.

The Bible says “In the beginning God,” while science claims “In the beginning the BB.” This leads me to believe that my theory of beginnings is more in harmony with what the Bible teaches.

Thanks for the reply Nic, that helps me understand your position better.

 

[TLK Valentine]

The Bible teaches that God had no beginning. If the universe began as a result of a huge explosion 15 billion years ago, then I have to conclude that God existed since eternity past until the Big Bang doing nothing.

Which would be the case regardless of when or how the universe came into being.

Instead of a Big event 15 billion years ago, I choose to believe that there were probably millions of Small Bangs going back countless of billions of years ago.

Interesting idea -- on what basis do you choose to believe this?

Remember that the theory of the BB is based on the expansion of the universe, and the calculated age of the universe is dependent of our estimate of the number of stars and galaxies in our universe, but every time we design a bigger telescope, our universe gets larger and larger.

We currently estimate the universe to contain 100 galaxies.

100 billion galaxies, actually.

This number will probably increase the day we build a more powerful telescope. Since we do not know the limits of our universe, this suggests that our calculations might be off by a huge magnitude. Besides, many scientists are beginning to question the theory of the BB.

That's what scientists do -- everything they can to poke holes in an existing theory in order to see if it stands up to the pressure.

The Bible says “In the beginning God,” while science claims “In the beginning the BB.” This leads me to believe that my theory of beginnings is more in harmony with what the Bible teaches.

So it's your theory, and not the Bible's theory?

 

[Loudmouth]

Remember that the theory of the BB is based on the expansion of the universe, and the calculated age of the universe is dependent of our estimate of the number of stars and galaxies in our universe, but every time we design a bigger telescope, our universe gets larger and larger.

The age of the universe is based on the temperature of the CMB which we have been measuring since the 1970's, not the number of galaxies.

We currently estimate the universe to contain 100 galaxies.

You are woefully misinformed. The current estimate is 100 billion galaxies based on the Hubble Ultra Deep Field survey.

Besides, many scientists are beginning to question the theory of the BB.

Given the mountains of evidence that back it, very few.

 

[RickG]

I think Nic's 100 galaxy's was a typo. If you notice his video had 100 billion in its title.

 

[Astrophile]

Well, if the big bang theory actually did claim something from nothing I would agree with you, but it doesn't, rather from a singularity.

So far as I understand it, some versions of the big bang theory do claim something from nothing. Lawrence Krauss wrote a book with the title 'A universe from nothing'. Also, the total energy of the universe is probably zero, so in one sense we still have nothing.

 

[RickG]

So far as I understand it, some versions of the big bang theory do claim something from nothing. Lawrence Krauss wrote a book with the title 'A universe from nothing'. Also, the total energy of the universe is probably zero, so in one sense we still have nothing.

I didn't know there were different versions of the BBT. I believe what your are referencing are completely different theories, or more correctly stated, "theoretical physics", which are based on math and physics rather than measurable observations as the BBT is.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Well, if the big bang theory actually did claim something from nothing I would agree with you, but it doesn't, rather from a singularity.

Here is a description of a singularity by an outstanding physicist:

Stephen Hawking
“The beginning of real time, would have been a singularity, at which the laws of physics would have broken down.”

More: http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html

If the laws of physics are broken down, then what we have is a universe exploding out of a non-meaningful statement. A singularity is actually science fiction. It cannot be tested and verified by the laws of physics and it does not honor the creative power of God.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

Interesting idea -- on what basis do you choose to believe this?

The size of the universe. It seems to be almost infinite in size. Every time we build a new telescope, the universe gets bigger and bigger. By the time we find the limits of the universe, you will probably agree with me on this.

 

[Nic Samojluk]

You are woefully misinformed. The current estimate is 100 billion galaxies based on the Hubble Ultra Deep Field survey.

I am not misinformed. The evidence is in the title of the video I posted. The word billion got accidentally deleted while editing.