Yes, it has to do with Christ's first coming. It was a Great and Terrible Day of the Lord FOR His Old Testament congregation that because of rejection of the Messiah (and put Him to death), they have lost a kingdom representation that God took from them and gave to New Testament Congregation where He has established a kingdom. I know many misguided Christians thought that Elijah has yet come and only applies to Second Coming.
Note: He stops reading at mid verse of Isaiah 61:2 He declares "the acceptable year of the Lord",
not the day of vengeance. The first and second coming in one verse. He proclaimed the first half
has been fulfilled in their hearing. Do you see? Trying to help here.
If you can receive it, there is a first and second coming. Elijah comes before that great and terrible
day.
Yes, it has to do with Christ's first coming. It was a Great and Terrible Day of the Lord FOR His Old Testament congregation that because of rejection of the Messiah
The belief that Jesus Returns in vengeance and fiery wrath, is a direct contradiction of the three clearly described scriptures that do tell us how His Return will look like, Zechariah 14:3, Matthew 24:30 and Revelation 19:11. Then He will simply destroy the attacking armies by the Sword of His Word. No mention of fire at that time at all.Nice try, but not quite right.
The Day of the Lord is a day of fire, vengeance, and wrath.
It’s at Jesus’ second coming that He comes with a sword, flaming fire, and vengeance - which matches with the events of the day of the Lord.
None of that happened at His first visit here.
Shalom.
I think this is what Jesus referred to in regard to John the Baptist.The very last words of the Old Testament are as follows:
Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD. He will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse. Malachi 4:5-6
Please note that these are the very last words of the Old Testament. They describe the coming of the Great and Terrible Day of the LORD and associate it with the coming of Elijah. The Great and Terrible Day of the LORD is assumed by many today to be the final event on earth’s eschatological time clock. But according to Jesus, it has already occurred. In the following statements, Jesus says that John the Baptist was Elijah.
And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. Matthew 11:14 NASB
And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things; but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist. Matthew 17:11-13 NASB
Because Jesus says something, I take serious note of it. By Jesus making these claims about John the Baptist, and by equating John’s coming with the coming of Elijah, I see no other way to interpret them than to conclude that Jesus was claiming His own coming was in fact the Great and Terrible Day of the LORD. How else can these verses be interpreted?
And if Jesus’ first coming was the Great and terrible Day of the LORD, what on earth are Christians waiting for with respect to His Second Coming? What more great and terrible day can there be than the day God Himself came in the flesh and allowed Himself to be hung on a cross? I find it hard to believe anything else could be done and be more aptly described as Great & Terrible…
I'm not cherry picking Bible verses. What I am doing is giving more weight to the words of Christ than anything else written in the Bible.
Elijah will likely be one of the two witnesses in Revelation 11.
I read it. BTW, I am not pre-mill/pre-trib, etc. I am Eastern Orthodox...
It is appointed for ALL to die once (Hebrews 9:27). It also says Eliyahu was translated. Same with Enokh (Hebrews 11:5). Genesis 5:24. Malakhi 4 implies that Eliyahu was still alive. Yeshua after He rose had a physical, but now immortal, body. That is the change. this in itself disproves your opinions...
Also, all traditional Christians agree with the EO doctrine and accept that Christ rose in the Flesh and not just in the spirit.
I also personally believe in the real presence of our Lord in the Eucharist owing to the physicality of His resurrection.
The very last words of the Old Testament are as follows:
Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD. He will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse. Malachi 4:5-6
Please note that these are the very last words of the Old Testament. They describe the coming of the Great and Terrible Day of the LORD and associate it with the coming of Elijah. The Great and Terrible Day of the LORD is assumed by many today to be the final event on earth’s eschatological time clock. But according to Jesus, it has already occurred. In the following statements, Jesus says that John the Baptist was Elijah.
And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. Matthew 11:14 NASB
And He answered and said, “Elijah is coming and will restore all things; but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist. Matthew 17:11-13 NASB
Because Jesus says something, I take serious note of it. By Jesus making these claims about John the Baptist, and by equating John’s coming with the coming of Elijah, I see no other way to interpret them than to conclude that Jesus was claiming His own coming was in fact the Great and Terrible Day of the LORD. How else can these verses be interpreted?
And if Jesus’ first coming was the Great and terrible Day of the LORD, what on earth are Christians waiting for with respect to His Second Coming? What more great and terrible day can there be than the day God Himself came in the flesh and allowed Himself to be hung on a cross? I find it hard to believe anything else could be done and be more aptly described as Great & Terrible…
It was also done prior to His death on the Cross. If anything only those 12 disciples at that particular moment was part of the process. Jesus does not do it post Cross. It was not an ongoing event, much less a religious ritual.
Please explain to us what you mean by Elijah WAS “still alive”:
Mal 4:5-6
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
How did He come? Did he come physically? Or did someone else having the same spirit and power of Elijah which is actually the Holy Spirit? Take your time!
Not physically but he come with the spirit and power of Elijah.
The Prophesies are specific; There are 2 Days of the Lord to come.What if the Day of the Lord is not really about the return of Jesus?
What if almost all references to the return of Jesus are not really about the return of Jesus?
Remembering something is not the same as doing it originally. If you drive a car in your youth and drive it your whole life, you are not remembering the car. If while driving your 5th car, and you sometimes remember your first car, the vehicles do not magically change around you to your first car, and you are actually driving the first car literally.THIS do in remembrance of me...as often as you drink of it you do it in remembrance of me...Luke 24:30
Elijah has never been pronounced dead. More than likely will never die, because he keeps coming and going multiple times.Um read Malachi...take your time...when was Eliyahu taken vs when did Malachi write that? Malachi, when he wrote that, was implying that Eliyahu was still alive and would come in the future.
Remembering something is not the same as doing it originally. If you drive a car in your youth and drive it your whole life, you are not remembering the car. If while driving your 5th car, and you sometimes remember your first car, the vehicles do not magically change around you to your first car, and you are actually driving the first car literally.
Elijah has never been pronounced dead. More than likely will never die, because he keeps coming and going multiple times.
Jesus does not do it post Cross. It was not an ongoing event, much less a religious ritual.
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