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There's nothing wrong with that. As long as you have a Master's or more. It's not fair to hold others to standards you don't hold yourself to.* It's kind of like the saying goes, "You're so busy looking for Mr./Mrs. Perfect. What are you doing that would make him/her look for you?"I want my girl to have at least a Master's, probably more.
Absolutely.There's nothing wrong with that. As long as you have a Master's or more. It's not fair to hold others to standards you don't hold yourself to.* It's kind of like the saying goes, "You're so busy looking for Mr./Mrs. Perfect. What are you doing that would make him/her look for you?"
*Not saying that you do. This is just a general statement that your comment made me think of.
lol. Insanity is unbecoming.Absolutely.
I really have this thing against double standards, so I'm tryin' to walk the walk too. And I'm not really "busy looking" for anything right now. I'll just do my own thing and the best stuff happens when we run into each other naturally.
Just kidding! I have a 6th grade education and missing teeth but I want a rich sugarmomma. Woe is me.
Well yeah, I have learned not to take the 'lists' too seriously. But I remember having seen a couple of really long ones in here and it kind of tells me that at least if someone from the CF was to pursue them that would take a really great sense of humor. But that's not a problem for CF'ers, right?
Yeah, that's something I, too, have only heard in movies, I think. Used about men. Weird stuff. And a girl calling me by that name..
And yes, I 'value' education. But when someone feels like they have to get into the doctor's/lawyer's program and graduate in the ideal timetable with excellent grades just because they've intellectually gifted and probably their parents and other family members except them to become something 'great' (in their reading of the word 'great'), then I feel sorry for them. Everyone should be let feel free to make it their own way. It's good that you feel free of outside pressures.
I value education and lifelong learning. I have spent some of the best years of my life in a university setting. I enjoy reading and talking about things that I've read. It's likely that I would be drawn most toward people who share some or all of these traits.
For me, it doesn't have anything to do with profession or income. It has to do with the fact that I have a strong scholarly side and would probably feel most "in-tune" with someone similar. (Read: Nerds of a feather flock together.)
Heh, I agreed with what you said, too. I think academic types (I decided not to pursue a scholarly career, but I'm still an academia nut) are a strange and obsessed breed, and we tend to seek out people who can understand our weirdities, because most of the world looks at us and our priorities and says, "are you out of your MIND!??!"This sums up EXACTLY what I was thinking!!!
Thank you for saying what i wanted to say so...succinctly. You know we can be long-winded.
When dating someone or thinking about a future partner... how important is it for that person to have the same amount of education as (or even more than) yourself? Is that a priority of yours in any way?
If it was a priority to someone, what would you think?
Motivation and intelligence is very important to me. Usually, this manefests itself in education these days...I would be very turned off if a girl was to say that she has been a casheir for the last 10 years. Whats the reason for that? Education is cheap and very available these days...
Believe it or not, some people are happy--and are probably best suited--being a cashier.
And believe it or not, some people work hard at and take a lot of pride in being a cashier.
So far, I have yet to see anyone on this thread post a list or say that a certain level of education is a mandated requirement. And, I have yet to see someone on this thread say that they are educating themselves to fulfill their parents wishes, so I fail to understand the antagonism in your post to people who have stated education is a value. You also seem to be criticizing those of us who are truly using our education as gifts or careers. Daniel was an intellectual and used it to glorify God.
Believe it or not, some people are happy--and are probably best suited--being a cashier.
And believe it or not, some people work hard at and take a lot of pride in being a cashier.
It may not be cheap over all (if you look at all the subsidized aspect of it) but community colleges are pretty darn cheap. I got my AS at a very good community college for about 1200 per semester. That is cheap.Formal post-secondary education is not for everybody. However, the system in the United States--especially evident in the phenomenon of credentialism--is structured to reward people who have formal post-secondary education and penalize people who do not, whether it is the best fit for a person or not.
Cheap and available? There is no such thing as a free lunch, economists like to tell us. "Education" has costs, not just benefits. When "education" is available mostly at the expense of other alternatives, it is not "cheap".
Yet, people come to this thread and state that there is no correlation between formal schooling and knowledge/intelligence as if they think that they are making some original observation. In reality it is no wonder that a lot of people with formal post-secondary education do not have exceptional knowledge and skills.
Believe it or not, some people are happy--and are probably best suited--being a cashier.
And believe it or not, some people work hard at and take a lot of pride in being a cashier.
So far, I have yet to see anyone on this thread post a list or say that a certain level of education is a mandated requirement. And, I have yet to see someone on this thread say that they are educating themselves to fulfill their parents wishes, so I fail to understand the antagonism in your post to people who have stated education is a value. You also seem to be criticizing those of us who are truly using our education as gifts or careers. Daniel was an intellectual and used it to glorify God.
It's like the people getting up in arms when someone stated they preferred to marry a virgin. These are all highly theoretical discussions that, as you pointed out, are subject to change once we meet the right person. There is nothing wrong in setting high standards--not superficial--standards for oneself.
It's funny that you mention this, because my parents wanted so badly for me to be a doctor. I went to college, took on the most rigorous science courses and nearly ruined my career, "convinced" that I was meant to be a doctor. During my third year, I decided to follow my "calling" and study literature. My family was incensed because I was pursuing a "useless" degree. Then they tried to convince me to attend law school (because all lawyers are inherently good writers ) and, for a while, I convinced myself I could do this. That didn't happen. They gave up on me. LOL. Then, after many years, I decided to pursue graduate studies on MY terms, studying what I LOVE: literature. I wanted NOTHING to do with academia when I graduated from college and ran far from it. But, in the end, God called me to the thing I love.
My family is SO proud that I'm pursuing a doctoral degree. For them, it IS about prestige. Now, certain meddling family members are trying to convince me--at 30-years-old--that once I get my degree I should go into something "lucrative". I just listen and let it go in one ear and out the other. I am doing what I love for ME and God--not to impress anyone. A lot of us see education as a way to impact the world, our communities, ourselves (and yes, God obviously is the ONLY answer).
A lot of us are also speaking from experience. In my early 20s, I was in a relationship with someone who had a degree, but couldn't articulate a thoughtful discussion (goes to show that a piece of paper is not an indicator of real knowledge). For ME, that was painfully frustrating because I'm someone who likes to talk AND think. If I'd ask him, "What do you think about so and so", he'd NEVER have a response. Some people place looks and wealth at the top of their "list," I don't. There is nothing more frustrating than not being able to communicate with someone you care for. I'm thankful for that experience because it made realize that when looks, sex and money fade, there better be SUBSTANCE left in the relationship--and I think this is why education (TRUE knowledge) is important to me.
This isn't about prestige, a piece of paper that will get burned up one day, or being something "great". It is so much deeper than that.
Now, not everyone has to have this value. Some people may not need to be stimulated in this area. And that's totally fine. We all have different needs.
I know what you're talking about. When I was a student, I worked some non-glamorous jobs to make ends meet. When I was waitressing, for example, I would spend my days in class, where I was respected, and my nights in a restaurant where people assumed I was somewhat less intelligent than the saltshaker.I know you probably didn't mean it this way, but you say it as though anybody who is a cashier is bottom of the barrel. I'm a cashier. I've been a cashier for almost a year. I'm also a full time college student, one year away from graduation, with a 3.949 GPA (on a 4.0 scale). I speak two languages (three if you count sign language, and I'm a year away from being certified to teach. So being a cashier in no way signifies that I'm dumb or bottom of the barrel. I work as a cashier to help pay tuition, pay for textbooks and supplementals, pay for car insurance and gas, and to save up for a study abroad trip. However, I still get customers who treat me like I'm an illiterate, drop-out, drain on the welfare system, because all they see is a cashier.
Yeah, it does pay off. Literally, at times. I earned way more waiting tables than I did when I worked at a Christian bookstore.Totally. Bad jobs are sometimes a means to an end. I've had some super bad jobs. I remember one summer i spent in a rubber suit sandblasting iron parts in the middle of a field. Sometimes i'd be stuck laying under a train with a grinder, in all kinds of filth, grinding rust off the fuel tank. That was pretty rough.
I still work in manufacturing, so all that experience really paid off even though it sucked at the time.
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