Echarist question

[Lilmissykato]

I'm having a bit of a debate with my friend. We are trying to figure out if someone who has sucidal thoughts is able to recieve the Blessed Sacriment. He says yes, I say it depends. We cannot find anything on google- do you have any idea that the answer is?

 

[AwedbyTruth]

Serious entertainment of suicidal thoughts is a mortal sin. So like you said it depends. If they continued to think about it and entertained the thought then they need to go to confession.

 

[Catholic Christian]

I'm having a bit of a debate with my friend. We are trying to figure out if someone who has sucidal thoughts is able to recieve the Blessed Sacriment. He says yes, I say it depends. We cannot find anything on google- do you have any idea that the answer is?

We cannot control our thoughts sometimes. We all have ups and downs. But if the person is not in a state of mortal sin, he can receive (which you already know.)

This person should make an appointment to have a long sit-down with a thoughtful priest.

 

[Lilmissykato]

Serious entertainment of suicidal thoughts is a mortal sin. So like you said it depends. If they continued to think about it and entertained the thought then they need to go to confession.

Well then at which point does a thought turn into serious entertainment?

 

[Catholic Christian]

Serious entertainment of suicidal thoughts is a mortal sin...

Really?

 

[Rebekka]

What a suicidal person needs the most is a helping hand, a listening ear and a shoulder to cry on.

 

[Rhamiel]

Serious entertainment of suicidal thoughts is a mortal sin. So like you said it depends. If they continued to think about it and entertained the thought then they need to go to confession.

it is good to know that on top of everything else, this means I am in mortal sin now as well

 

[MoNiCa4316]

oki this is just my opinion I think that if a person is attacked with suicidal thoughts and is really trying to avoid them, they are not sinning. But if they choose the suicidal thoughts over non suicidal ones, they are. Does this make sense? It matters on the intention and what they do with their free will.

I went through a very painful time once when I literally felt spiritually attacked with terrible thoughts. It did not seem that these ideas came from me at all, and it was so hard to avoid them. I really tried to block them and prayed so much..and nothing helped. Until one day, God made it all end and I don't have these thoughts anymore, and even if I'm reminded of them, I can block them. Well..God knows I was really trying to stop thinking this way..so I'm not sure if I was sinning... I did however pray for forgiveness for this and felt extremely guilty about it all.

Hope that helps...

So to answer the OP question, I'd say that if the person doesn't choose to think suicidal thoughts and sincerely tries not to, then it'll be alright to take the Eucharist. But if not, they should go to confession. I'd say it's best to talk to a priest about this if it's an issue, and it wouldn't hurt to confess anyway... even if the thoughts are caused by something psychological or even demonic, we never know how much of our free will was involved!

God bless

monica

 

[Rebekka]

Most people who are suicidal are depressed. Depression is an illness. No one chooses to be depressed.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

What a suicidal person needs the most is a helping hand, a listening ear and a shoulder to cry on.

I agree.
And even if they feel alone and don't have a friend or family member to turn to..Jesus is always there and never turns people away. He is the best "helping hand, listening ear and a shoulder to cry on". And He loves them more than anyone else ever could.

 

[MoNiCa4316]

Most people who are suicidal are depressed. Depression is an illness. No one chooses to be depressed.

That is true; well as I said if they can't stop these thoughts, that is not their fault at all. If they actively choose to entertain them..that is different.

By the way I believe it's kinda different in the case of depression...as you said it's an illness. Well most if not all depressed people don't enjoy being depressed, and would rather not be...so I don't think they're sinning there, because they don't choose it.

God bless

monica

 

[MoNiCa4316]

it is good to know that on top of everything else, this means I am in mortal sin now as well

aw brother
you know, I used to be kinda suicidal I never actually tried but I did seriously consider it.
For anyone struggling with suicidal thoughts/actions...I believe that prayer really helps; God is not an accuser but encourages us and gives hope..and opening up to His love and experiencing it really changes things. In the case of depression I know it's really hard to do this though..God understands..remember He doesn't want anyone to suffer alone, and is always offering help.

God bless

monica

 

[Rhamiel]

all sin comes from pride, to reject Gods plan for your life is a form of pride, that is why people think about killing themselves, they do not like where their life is going and they think they know better then God about what their life should be like

 

[Gwendolyn]

all sin comes from pride, to reject Gods plan for your life is a form of pride, that is why people think about killing themselves, they do not like where their life is going and they think they know better then God about what their life should be like

no. everything seems so hopeless, so futile, so useless that it seems as though one cannot endure it any longer. the pain is so intense, so deep, and so great that the individual only wishes for it to stop. and the only foreseeable way to make that happen, when one is in such a frame of mind, is to harm yourself.

it is not about pride. it is about being very seriously ill. your mind is not in the proper state for reasoning and negotiating. you cannot reason properly, and you cannot rationalise when you are dealing with something that is entirely irrational.

a good, long talk with a priest - and honest one - may help the situation. that's what i did.

 

[BAFRIEND]

I'm having a bit of a debate with my friend. We are trying to figure out if someone who has sucidal thoughts is able to recieve the Blessed Sacriment. He says yes, I say it depends. We cannot find anything on google- do you have any idea that the answer is?

You should use spell check.

 

[Rhamiel]

I am having suicidal thoughts thoughts just attempting to get over the issue of your spelling alone.

she is asking a question so leave her alone

 

[benedictaoo]

I'm having a bit of a debate with my friend. We are trying to figure out if someone who has sucidal thoughts is able to recieve the Blessed Sacriment. He says yes, I say it depends. We cannot find anything on google- do you have any idea that the answer is?

If it is due to an illness... that person would need Jesus all the more.

 

[benedictaoo]

I am having suicidal thoughts thoughts just attempting to get over the issue of your spelling alone.

you are being a butt

 

[benedictaoo]

all sin comes from pride, to reject Gods plan for your life is a form of pride, that is why people think about killing themselves, they do not like where their life is going and they think they know better then God about what their life should be like

But the Church no longer denies funeral rights anymore to those who committed suicide for the reason we know more about suicide and mental illnesses and we can not put caps on God's mercy.

 

[BAFRIEND]

shut up, she is asking a question and you are being an ass, so leave her alone

If you have three spelling errors in an OP that has spell check, it should be pointed out.

If you don't like it- too bad.