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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Handmaid for Jesus, Nov 2, 2016.

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  1. Rene Loup

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    Nuclear chief: Iran builds new centrifuge rotor factory

    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Nuclear-chief-Iran-builds-new-centrifuge-rotor-factory-562823

    Iran nuclear chief says uranium stockpile has doubled to 950 tons

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-nuclear-chief-says-uranium-stockpile-reaches-950-tons/

     
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    If Iran Gets Back to Nukes, Israel Is Better Prepared to Strike

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...-gets-back-to-nukes-israel-is-ready-to-strike

     
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  3. Rene Loup

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    https://syriancivilwarmap.com/

    Couple more rebel cities were surrendered to the Syrian regime. Nawa and Sheikh Saad are suffering heavy airstrikes. It's possible they may get captured tomorrow.

    At this rate, I'm estimating that Assad will have completely control of this part of the country by the end of the month. If not, then early August.

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  4. jgr

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    Syria for Syrians.
     
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    Indeed, which includes the rebel Syrians who started the war in the first place, because Assad's dictatorship was so crushing.

    And now Russia and Iran and (Lebanese) Hezbollah have all invaded Syria to crush these Syrians.

    So much for Syria for Syrians.

    Instead, now it's Syria for Russians and Iranians and Lebanese. (And RT would, of course, somehow claim that this is right.)
     
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    Note that it has not been shown that even the best U.S. "bunker busters" could necessarily take out Fordow, just as a senior Israel Defense Forces officer told the Israeli cabinet in 2011 that the IDF does not have the ability to hit the Iranian nuclear program in a "meaningful way". This could be because some of the key Iranian nuclear facilities are buried so deep underground (i.e. under mountains) that no bombs dropped from the air (not even the best bunker busters) can get down to them. Also, Iran now has highly-advanced, Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missiles guarding its main nuclear-weapons facilities. The only way to end Iran's nuclear weapons program is to send ground forces into Iran who can fight their way down into the facilities and then blow them up with hand-placed plastic explosives. But there are so many different facilities scattered in so many different places across Iran that it would take an all-out ground invasion of Iran to be able to reach all of the facilities, and also to overthrow Iran's extremist regime. For if it is not overthrown, it will (with Russian and North Korean help) simply rebuild any nuclear facilities which are destroyed; or it will secretly purchase already-built nukes directly from North Korea. But, in an awful irony, any future U.S. preparations for an all-out Iraqi ground war against Iran, to prevent the destruction of Israel by Iranian nukes, could instead result in the destruction of Israel during a different war, by the very same Iraqi ground forces which had been built up by the U.S. to invade Iran.
     
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  7. jgr

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    There isn't a Syrian civilian alive today who wouldn't exchange the conflagration of the Syria that is, for the "crushing dictatorship" of the Syria that was.

    The "rebel" Syrians bought the propaganda perpetuated by the zionist neocon warmongers in Washington, and their CIA-orchestrated presstitutes in the western MSM, that American interference and destabilization could somehow improve their lives.

    As with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, et al; the calamitous consequences of their choices will persist for generations.

    But for CNN, NBC, CBS, NPR, and the plethora of western bought-and-controlled MSM presstitutes, truth is no longer any objective.

    The only objective is to now parrot the message and do the will of the deep state.

    The ultimate outcome of their venal perfidy will be global war.
     
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  8. Rene Loup

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    Syrian Rebels, Regime Strike Deal in Province Near Israeli Border, State TV Says

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...e-strike-deal-in-region-near-israel-1.6291582

    Controversial Jewish nation-state bill passes into law

    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Controversial-Jewish-nation-state-bill-passes-into-law-562898

     
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    EU leads criticism after Israel passes Jewish 'nation state' law

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/israel-adopts-controversial-jewish-nation-state-law

    Jewish nation state: Israel approves controversial bill

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44881554

    Yeah... This is only going to further isolate Israel and possibly cause some vigilante countries to take matters into their own hands, especially Turkey. I thought I'd never see Israel do this but I can now see why they are going to be alone during the Ezekiel 38 & 39 events.
     
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    Syrian rebels surrender in Quneitra as Assad continues advance in south

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ender-quneitra-assad-continues-advance-south/

    https://syriancivilwarmap.com/

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    Keyword civilian. Syrian rebels have been willing to die to try to free themselves from the vile tyranny of Assad/Putin, which crushes the Syrians, and which has ruthlessly bombed even peaceful civilians into oblivion, such as in eastern Aleppo, Eastern Ghouta, and, in the future, Idlib.

    To support Assad/Putin is to support evil. (This will drive RT mad, but so be it.)

    RT propaganda. The Syrian rebels were no different than the American rebels against British tyranny.

    But the U.S. abandoned the Syrian rebels, unlike France's continued support of the American rebels.

    As if Russia didn't try to conquer Afghanistan. And as if Russia isn't still trying to influence Libya, and also Iraq (through Russia's evil ally Iran).

    Just as truth is no objective for RT, but servility to Putin, or else they will be gunned down on the street.

    They are not presstitutes, but slaves.

    The state is deeper in Russia, and much more lethal.

    Posh. Only if Putin knows that he's about to die anyway, from some disease or poisoning. Otherwise, MAD still reigns.
     
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    Assad takes more land. All that remains between Assad and the Golan Heights is a strip of rebel held territory and ISIS. ISIS has also captured land from the rebels and I do not believe it will last long with Russia, Iran, and the Syrian regime on the prowl.

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    Note that ISIS is being allowed to last long in far-eastern Syria, where U.S. troops are in control.

    This is on purpose, to give the U.S. troops a reason to stay there. But also to give time to the Iraqi Baathist generals leading ISIS there to set up a Baathist coup d'etat in Iraq, which will overthrow Iran's hegemony over Iraq, and set up Iraq for an eventual all-out invasion of Iran, to end its extremist regime.

    So many problems in the Middle East will vanish once the current Iranian regime is removed.

    (But, alas, it may not be removed. For a future, Baathist Iraq could turn and take out Israel instead. Also, this won't be Gog/Magog, which won't happen for another thousand years: Revelation 20:7-10. Instead the Iraqi defeat and occupation of Israel would be the antitypical fulfillment of Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath".)
     
  16. jgr

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    Syrian rebels have died, and do and will die, buying the American lie. The US presence is an unsolicited invasion illegal under international law. US airstrikes have killed thousands, as have Syrian government airstrikes. There would be far fewer casualties from far fewer airstrikes by any side had the US refrained from its illicit incursion and rebel support.

    ISIL/ISIS was an American creation of terrorism and destabilization. As the world has witnessed, it is unsurpassed as an incarnation of evil.

    There is none driven more mad than those seen in the mindless hysteria exhibited by the American and western MSM, as Pres. Trump seeks to establish dialogue, and deescalate tensions, with Pres. Putin. But these objectives are at diametrical variance with those of the MSC, which must continuously manufacture an enemy to justify its existence, and its trillion dollars of unaccounted “budget” waste. Thus hysterical madness must continue to prevail.

    Yes, the western MSM presstitute media would never ever itself emit propaganda.

    There might be some defensibility in American intervention if the objective was genuinely to bring freedom and democracy. But there's no money to be made from an objective so noble. And it has been well said that all wars are bankers' wars. And the world's most pernicious bankers dwell on Wall Street. So the invariable unstated but unmistakable priorities of American hegemonic intervention are: 1. Parachute in billions of dollars (as Victoria Nuland boasted regarding Ukraine) to finance an uprising which will overthrow the existing regime; and install a puppet vassal regime that will do Washington's bidding on demand. 2. Commence looting and impoverishment of the nation's economy and citizens to feed Wall Street's insatiable maw.

    The Soviet Union abandoned Afghanistan in 1989. Russia has not been back since.

    Yes, Russia is not permitted to influence anyone. Only America has that privilege.


    So if there is no truth in any MSM, where do we find truth?

    Yes, Russia's deep state has launched thousands of lethal drone strikes over recent years, from various of its 800 military bases around the globe, causing thousands of collateral civilian casualties.

    The comparison of the lethality of the Russian and American deep states elicits the comparison of a flea to an elephant.

    MAD has never been other than conceptual, insofar as both sides have always retained first use of nuclear weapons as a policy option. The losing side in a protracted conventional conflict would at some point feel compelled to resort to nuclear first use.
     
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    For an objective unpresstituted analysis of the Syrian situation:

    https://libertarianinstitute.org/the-myth-of-us-inaction-in-syria/


    Et al:

    https://straightlinelogic.com/2018/07/19/the-black-belt-strategist-by-robert-gore/
     
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    Rather, fighting tyranny.

    Self-defense against ISIS.

    Not thousands. And not directed at civilians on purpose, as with Syria/Russia.

    There would have been no casualties had Assad given up his tyranny.

    RT propaganda.

    That's why the U.S. went after it. Trump got done what Obama dithered over.

    That language is so RT.

    Do you watch all their videos?

    Um, Putin's got dirt on him.

    Compromat.

    (Just as Israel could have on Putin.)

    Actually, Russia, like China, is a real, geopolitical enemy, and they pose threats to peaceful nations in eastern Europe and eastern Asia, as is proven by their invasions of Ukraine and the South China Sea.

    If not held back by the U.S., they would divide the world between them, and impose their tyrannical governments over everyone.

    Thank God for the U.S.

    Thank God that there is still freedom in the world.

    When the U.S. does not continue to prevail, the world is doomed.

    Who said that?

    The point is to take every news story with a grain of salt, considering the source and what interests it may wish to further.

    Don't swallow RT as if it were gospel truth. It's corrupt.

    There is no defensibility in Russian intervention in Syria with the objective of propping up a tyrant, just so that Russia can keep its naval base there, and expand its hegemony over every part of Syria.

    Right, like the U.S. did to Western European nations and Japan after World War II. Not. Instead, the U.S. rebuilt them into thriving and free countries.

    But Russia invaded Ukraine to annex it into its tyranny. If that is not hegemonic intervention, then nothing is.

    Only because it knows that it can't win there.

    Russia only influences others to expand its tyranny. It has nothing else to offer.

    The U.S. has freedom to offer.

    It wasn't said that there is no truth there. There is usually at least some truth in every news story. But it must picked out of the "spin" of the story.

    Keyword collateral, while Russia/Syria intentionally bombs civilians, as was proven in eastern Aleppo, Eastern Ghouta, and will be proven even more horribly in the future annihilation of Idlib.

    No, only Russia's economy is like a flea to the elephant of the American economy.

    Because the Russian economy has been so poorly managed by Putin and his oligarch thugs.

    All they do is plunder the natural-resource riches of the poor and lovely Russian people.

    The Russian people need freedom.

    It's the same in Iran. The poor and lovely Iranian people are ruled by a cabal of evil thugs.

    The Iranian people need freedom.

    It's no coincidence that Russia and Iran are allies. Tyrannies like to stick together.

    First use is no less conceptual than MAD. And the latter concept has been what has kept the former from ever being acted upon.

    No, for that would turn a simple, conventional loss into utter annihilation.
     
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    If tyranny is such a concern, focus on Saudi Arabia, perpetrator of 9/11 directly responsible for thousands of American deaths, and the primary sponsor of global Sunni terrorism responsible for thousands more deaths worldwide.

    Syrian tyranny is trifling by comparison.

    Self-defense against an enemy of your own creation inside another sovereign nation's borders thousands of miles distant.

    Must be talking about the American way.

    Approaching 6,000 according to the article.

    Deplorable but inevitable when rebels are embedded in civilian populations.

    Nor would there have been absent an instigated rebellion.

    Presstituted propaganda.

    The U.S. went after its residual vestiges after Russia had inflicted the majority of the damage and decimation.

    That language is so presstituted.

    Do you watch only CNN and read only the WaPo?

    Let's have some credible evidence as opposed to baseless allegations and demonizations.

    U.S. - about 800 military bases globally

    Russia – about 20 military bases primarily in former Russian territories

    Who is the threat?

    I thank God for what the U.S. has done in the past to preserve freedom in the world. But what it is now doing and becoming is a threat to humanity. If only the U.S. is exceptional and indispensable, as it has declared, then the rest of the world is by default unexceptional and dispensable. This is the insane rhetoric of confrontation and conflict.

    During the worst times of the Cold War of the past, dialogue between the U.S. and Russia was maintained. This included during the Cuban missile crisis, when Kennedy and Khrushchev continued to communicate, and ultimately reached a resolution.

    Today, any attempts at dialogue and communication are termed treasonous. And the demonization of Russia is without precedent in the history of political discourse between the West and the East.

    If the U.S. does not abandon the insanity which it is currently pursuing, the consequences are ultimately irreversible and globally disastrous.

    On its current trajectory, the world is doomed.

    It may surprise you to know that there are information sources other than RT which are credible and objective. See post #1437.

    Continued below...
     
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  20. Rene Loup

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    Guys, if you want to debate, please start a new topic. Keep in mind the rules Handmaid for Jesus set for this topic.
     
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