Dune

[NerdGirl]

I love the idea of million-year-old sand worms living on Mars.

Or we could just watch 'Dune'. If they'd ever release it!

 

[Ophiolite]

You need faith to accept…

Faith is a suspect ability of some humans to lie to themselves so they can believe in an attractive fictional world rather than the real one. Fortunately, despite some early confusion on my part, I have avoided any taint of faith for half a century. I would offer you lessons on deprogramming yourself, but it would be against forum rules.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I have avoided any taint of faith for half a century.

I feel it's weak with you.

 

[Ophiolite]

I feel it's weak with you.

I've told you it is absent. What makes you think it's present in sufficient quantity in me for you to call it "weak"?

 

[JohnEmmett]

I've told you it is absent.

enough to be agnostic

 

[JohnEmmett]

I would offer you lessons on deprogramming yourself…

"The truth is out there"

 

[Ophiolite]

enough to be agnostic

Agnosticism is based upon the opposite of knowledge; it arises from a recognition of lack of knowledge and a refusal to accept until evidence is presented.

 

[JohnEmmett]

refusal to accept until evidence is presented.

what is the evidence?

 

[Ophiolite]

what is the evidence?

Evidence for what? God? As far as I can see there isn't any of any significance, hence my position. You seem to hold the same view since you say you rely upon faith to justify your beliefs.

 

[JohnEmmett]

since you say you rely upon faith to justify your beliefs.

experience justifies my philosophy… I said faith is necessary to accept

 

[JohnEmmett]

Evidence for what? God?

the afterlife is my concern

 

[Ophiolite]

the afterlife is my concern, God is an intuitive leap

I'll make a deal with you: post more than one liners; expand on your statements so as to clarify their meaning at the first pass and then I'll consider having a proper discussion with you.

And, in the "nice to have category" use almost any font other than Times Roman.

 

[JohnEmmett]

post more than one liners

I need only a sentence


or perhaps another sentence

 

[Ophiolite]

I need only a sentence


or perhaps another sentence

Perhaps you only require one sentence to satisfy your ego, but you need more than one to communicate clearly with your audience. However, if you choose the path of discourtesy I'll leave you to it.

 

[JohnEmmett]

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I think you are confused. Though I speak for myself I suspect many sceptics and critical thinkers here will agree:
I desperately want to accept that there are worms on Mars. That alien UFOs are real. That some people are gifted with ESP. That remote viewing is possible. That there are time travellers among us. Unfortunately there isn't a single piece of meaningful evidence to support any of these notions and so I must, with great reluctance reject them.
It seems your desire to believe is overcoming your ability to critically examine evidence.

Yep - I remember as a child trying out ESP, telekinesis, etc., hoping and half-believing they might be possible; but when I discovered physics, the principles of science, and critical thinking, it became clear that not only did they lack any coherent mechanism, but there was a better explanation for the claims & reports - in terms of human psychology.

I only levitate in my dreams - and oddly, no-one (in the dreams) ever takes any notice... anyone else find that?

 

[JohnEmmett]

Yep - I remember as a child trying out ESP, telekinesis, etc., hoping and half-believing they might be possible

may interest a person to investigate and discover meditation

and the teachings of the Far East…

 

[FreeinChrist]

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