Dreams of planes flying in a weird way and then crashing

[timewerx]

My dreams of this nature is becoming more and more frequent. Big airliners flying low and then doing some ridiculous moves until finally crashing.

I think it's something that can be caused by computer malfunction. More recently, it's not just planes but also power plants erupting in flames and many parts of the city going dark without electricity.

 

[Zbnigniew]

nice, ive had some good otherworldly scary dreams involving jets and alien craft myself
jumbos flying low, advanced fighter craft porting into field of vision from other parts in space launching missiles. pretty disconcerting stuff. maybe jung would say it has something to do with powerlessness or something but jung also says that dreams can only be interpreted by the dreamer lol

 

[tturt]

But what does God say about dreams?

Welcome to CF. Realizing that you are new to Christian Forums. That's this forum's focus - what does God say in particular regarding sign gifts? CF regards dreams as sign gifts. In this thread, if these dreams are from God, what is He saying?

 

[tturt]

By way of confirmation, one of the headlines in John Paul Jackson's "Perfect Storm" from 2008? was Planes down from Solar Tsunami and those events were going to happen around 2020.

 

[tturt]

False prophets intentionally lead people away from God. (Matt 24:11, 24; II Pet 2:1). It's not when the word is in error - Deu 18:22

"Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thess 5:20-21
Darby states "but prove all things, hold fast the right.

No believer is error free in their service to the Lord.

John Paul said around 2020.

To post on this forum -posters are to believe in the spiritual gifts are for today.

 

[mama2one]

not surprised that people would dream of crashing planes especially if one watches the news

my husband used to travel for work
EVERY time before he left, there was one or two major plane crashes reported on news

that always heightened my anxiety about him flying
so glad he hasn't flown since pandemic started

lately, there's been a lot of small plane crashes on news

 

[timewerx]

These dreams has been going on my whole life in since I was a child. The planes suddenly turning into suicide machines.

I had one of these dreams that stood out from the rest. The planes did not explode upon impact but transformed into formless objects that looked like heaps of charcoal particles but moved on the ground like it was alive. It moved on the ground at great speed. Absorbed anything it touched including people, turning everything into the same material and enlarging itself.

A different version of these dreams, I'm a passenger or pilot on a large jet airliner that's about leave. But somehow in that plane, we're not in an airport but in a road somewhere. We try to take off from the road but the huge plane had to dodge trees, buildings, electric lines. It was total nightmare but we actually make it off the ground without a scratch!

 

[Homeowner]

not surprised that people would dream of crashing planes especially if one watches the news

my husband used to travel for work
EVERY time before he left, there was one or two major plane crashes reported on news

that always heightened my anxiety about him flying
so glad he hasn't flown since pandemic started

lately, there's been a lot of small plane crashes on news

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[Presbyterian Continuist]

False prophets intentionally lead people away from God. (Matt 24:11, 24; II Pet 2:1). It's not when the word is in error - Deu 18:22

"Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thess 5:20-21
Darby states "but prove all things, hold fast the right.

No believer is error free in their service to the Lord.

John Paul said around 2020.

To post on this forum -posters are to believe in the spiritual gifts are for today.

Many false prophecies are just "word salads" full of Charismatic jargon, and doesn't actually saying anything of substance. Saying "The Lord is saying" and then giving a set of Biblical phrases, is not true prophecy.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Many false prophecies are just "word salads" full of Charismatic jargon, and doesn't actually saying anything of substance. Saying "The Lord is saying" and then giving a set of Biblical phrases, is not true prophecy.

I agree with this, Oscarr, especially when you are talking about within certain circles of Christianity. But she was referring to John Paul Jackson, and his prophecies were nothing like that at all. They were filled with specifics, and tons of them. They were nothing but substance, from start to finish.

 

[Petros2015]

Emp pulse, high altitude nuke burst would do this.

 

[Petros2015]

Well, at least from the OP. We'd need nanites for the other stuff.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I agree with this, Oscarr, especially when you are talking about within certain circles of Christianity. But she was referring to John Paul Jackson, and his prophecies were nothing like that at all. They were filled with specifics, and tons of them. They were nothing but substance, from start to finish.

I viewed his prophecy about the coming storm, and saw that it was a "one size fits all" type of prophecy. He was not able to predict Covid, the Teleban takeover of Afganistan, the killing of George Floyd and the resulting riots around the nation, 9/11, the California wildfires, all of which were significant world and national events. Also, he missed that the only nation that God is concerned about is Israel. Also, the Old Testament Scriptures he quoted were in the context of the children of Israel and not for Gentile people. One cannot lift Old Testament Scriptures out of context and say that they apply to people who live in the United States. He says that the Lord has spoke to him about what he is saying, but there are enough serious faults in his prophecy not to guarantee that the Lord has spoken to him at all. Therefore it is quite probable that he has taken the Lord's name in vain.

I have no doubt that he is sincere and has a genuine concern about the future of the nation, and if he had not said that it was the Lord speaking to him, his dissertation might be accepted as his sincere concern for the nation.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I viewed his prophecy about the coming storm, and saw that it was a "one size fits all" type of prophecy. He was not able to predict Covid, the Teleban takeover of Afganistan, the killing of George Floyd and the resulting riots around the nation, 9/11, the California wildfires, all of which were significant world and national events.

Come on, Oscarr, LoL. You are forwarding the assumption that if someone is a true prophet of God they will prophesy concerning every major issue known to man or they are not. Where is the precedent for that in scripture? If you extended it through time, that sort of standard would disqualify even the Biblical prophets. I don't recall any of them predicting the killing of George Floyd either, and quite frankly I wouldn't regard that as much of an earth-shattering event in annuls of history myself. If we are to necessitate including that, it would be a small step to pointing out the omission of all sorts of minor events only to criticize, condemn and disqualify.

Also, he missed that the only nation that God is concerned about is Israel.

You know, when you post statements like this I'm inclined to think you're just bored, so you're goading people into responses because you need the conversation, LoL.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Come on, Oscarr, LoL. You are forwarding the assumption that if someone is a true prophet of God they will prophesy concerning every major issue known to man or they are not. Where is the precedent for that in scripture? If you extended it through time, that sort of standard would disqualify even the Biblical prophets. I don't recall any of them predicting the killing of George Floyd either, and quite frankly I wouldn't regard that as much of an earth-shattering event in annuls of history myself. If we are to necessitate including that, it would be a small step to pointing out the omission of all sorts of minor events only to criticize, condemn and disqualify.


You know, when you post statements like this I'm inclined to think you're just bored, so you're goading people into responses because you need the conversation, LoL.

The problem with all of the known prophets is they were unable to predict even one major world and national event.

 

[Hidden In Him]

The problem with all of the known prophets is they were unable to predict even one major world and national event.

That's total nonsense. You're not even paying attention, Oscarr.

But seeing as how I see a long debate coming that's already started to highjack this thread, just understand that as bad as this may sound, without intentionally trying to vilify you, the truth is that you stand as an enemy of the Spirit of God on this matter, and what He is actually saying to the churches. You profess to know something about prophecy when your positions are in reality an attack against the very gift itself.

God bless, until the Lord gives time and space for discussing it further,
- H

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

That's total nonsense. You're not even paying attention, Oscarr.

But seeing as how I see a long debate coming that's already started to highjack this thread, just understand that as bad as this may sound, without intentionally trying to vilify you, the truth is that you stand as an enemy of the Spirit of God on this matter, and what He is actually saying to the churches. You profess to know something about prophecy when your positions are in reality an attack against the very gift itself.

God bless, until the Lord gives time and space for discussing it further,
- H

I don't think that exposing false prophecy is making me an enemy of the Spirit of God. To accuse me of that, you would have to accuse Jeremiah and Ezekiel of the same because they were very vocal about false prophets dreaming up "thus says the Lord" prophecies from their own minds and not being sent by the Lord. Jehoshaphat heard Ahab's prophets, concluded that they were false, and asked, "Is there a prophet of the Lord from whom we can hear?" He clearly implied that Ahab's prophets were definitely not of the Lord.

Benny Hinn prophesied that the entire gay community would be burned up by 1974. It never happened. All of the Word-Faith prophets said that Donald Trump would win the presidential election, which did not happen. As I said before, the Covid-19 pandemic took all of them by surprised. The Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry had to close because many of the students contracted the virus. Kenneth Copeland boldly and loudly asserted that Covid-19 would cease on March 29 2020. It never happened. Paula White, Trump's spiritual adviser boldly prophesied that Trump would win by striking the pulpit multiple times as a prophetic demonstration. All that demonstration was in vain. Chuck Pierce's prophecies on Youtube have been seen as him prophesying absolutely nothing in spite of all the Charismatic buzz words he used. All he spoke were buzz word salads which appeared to say something, but no one who examined the prophecies were able to know what he was trying to say. And yet he continually said "The Lord says", and "I am saying to you" speaking in the Lord's first person voice. I find it very difficult to believe that the Lord would speak such a gobbledygook combination of unconnected words and phrases that amount to nothing substantive. There are many websites and Youtube channels of prophetic ministries that have thousands of followers who believe that these people are speaking the Word of God, and yet when the prophecies are examined, they are also made up of gobbledygook buzz words that mean nothing.

But I have been in meetings where the preacher has spoken prophetically, and where I have heard the voice of the Holy Spirit in his message as if the preacher was preaching directly to me, and yet I was just one of 400 people in that meeting. I have read Charles Spurgeon sermons where the prophetic voice of the Holy Spirit has spoken directly to me out of it. So I think I sort of know the difference between true and false prophecy.