Dragons?!?!

[P4g4nite]

Pwned!!11

 

[Blackmarch]

When i talk about dragons, im not talking about a metaphor or something about some form of satan/antichrist/deamon. I'm talking about the winged medeval lizard thingies what spout fire and soforth.
Now my question is. . .can those type creatures have/do exist?

i think YES because. . .well, of several reasons, one main one being that in nearly every culture, there are stories of them. . .altho some do come in different forms, there are stories nontheless, and even culturs who have never really met other cultures with similar stories have similar storie.
i kinda started this post off of the statement that all myth has base in fact. i just wana know what yall think. . .and not just dragons but other things as well. . .phonex, griffin, etc.

Komodo Dragons

As for the medieval type exactly - Nope

However we have had dinosaurs far in the past that were huge, lizardlike, had scales, killer claws and jaws. some even had wings and flew (or glided as size would help dictate). So could something like that exist? sure, at least it did once.

 

[adamas]

where did all the animal planet stuff come from????

 

[Blackmarch]

where did all the animal planet stuff come from????

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This one doesn't watch TV much; you'll have to explain more about your question.

 

[Hydra009]

There was an Animal Planet special on dragons, which tried to recreate and make believable how they lived, breathed fire, flew, etc. IF they really existed. The special, which IMO didn't do a good enough job of stressing that dragons aren't real to a credulous public, has caused a series of "Dragons are real!"-type posts.

The Dragons special was sort of like a previous special, The Future Is Wild, which speculated on the future of species (given that humans decide to pack up and completely leave Earth). There was a lot of very nice CGI in both specials.

 

[Blackmarch]

There was an Animal Planet special on dragons, which tried to recreate and make believable how they lived, breathed fire, flew, etc. IF they really existed. The special, which IMO didn't do a good enough job of stressing that dragons aren't real to a credulous public, has caused a series of "Dragons are real!"-type posts.

The Dragons special was sort of like a previous special, The Future Is Wild, which speculated on the future of species (given that humans decide to pack up and completely leave Earth). There was a lot of very nice CGI in both specials.

OK that explains a lot. Those shows are really fun and intriguing, great to get the mind cogs turning, but a person probably shouldn't hold their breath.

Although for that sort of stuff, the vote is for the well of souls "theory"

 

[Vance]

The very opening lines were something like, "if dragons had been real, then this is what we might find . . ." and then they launched into a fictional "find" in a glacier or some such, but it was fairly clear from the outset that it was all a fiction, and there was not actually such a find, etc.

Again, my five year old seemed to get it right away. But then he was a big "Future is Wild" fan, so he was kind of prepped for it.

 

[Soldier_of_Christ]

Hmmm...I have heard it hypothesized that dragons are nothing more than Dinosaurs, twisted in peoples imaginations until they look like winged firebreathing monsters. This is the theory that I hold with.

 

[Hydra009]

The very opening lines were something like, "if dragons had been real, then this is what we might find . . ." and then they launched into a fictional "find" in a glacier or some such, but it was fairly clear from the outset that it was all a fiction, and there was not actually such a find, etc.

Right, but imagine someone just tunning into the show at the glacier scene or at the end of the behind the scenes part in which they tended to give "Maybe dragons really do exist" statements. It'd be pretty easy to get the wrong impression. You're right, it should be obvious to everyone that it wasn't a real thing. So why all the "Dragons are real!" posts?

 

[MaynardGKrebbs]

Dragons, griffons, giants, behemoths, probably most mythical beasts can best be explained by ancient peoples finding fossils. They knew the bones they found matched nothing living so they created stories to explain them. Just imagine these primitive people finding a sauropod leg bone, or the skull of a horned dinosaur, or the tusks of a mammoth.

 

[the_gloaming]

One problem with dragons is that they have 6 limbs and there's no know vertebrates (correct me if I'm wrong) who have more than 4

Several fossils have been found showing fish in a group known as Acanthodians with several extra pairs of fins. If these creatures hadn't become extinct by the Permian there could well have been 6 or 8 limbed land vertebrates!

 

[orion910]

Isn't there some kind of Insect that has two chemicals in its stomach area. And when it gets angry it shoots the two chemicals out of it's tail, and when they touch causes a chemical reaction, and turns into fire. Therefore shooting fire out of it's tail.
Could'nt there could have been, and maybe still is, a Fire Breathing Dragon? Or lizard? The lizard could've had those two chemicals. I think it is entirely possible that Dragons exist.

 

[h2whoa]

Isn't there some kind of Insect that has two chemicals in its stomach area. And when it gets angry it shoots the two chemicals out of it's tail, and when they touch causes a chemical reaction, and turns into fire. Therefore shooting fire out of it's tail.

Uh-oh. No one say "bomadier beetle".

D'oh.

h2

 

[Praxiteles]

"Bombadier Beetle!"

*runs away giggling*

 

[Praxiteles]

Isn't there some kind of Insect that has two chemicals in its stomach area.

Yes

And when it gets angry it shoots the two chemicals out of it's tail, and when they touch causes a chemical reaction, and turns into fire. Therefore shooting fire out of it's tail.

No

Could'nt there could have been, and maybe still is, a Fire Breathing Dragon? Or lizard? The lizard could've had those two chemicals. I think it is entirely possible that Dragons exist.

Well, it's possible. Anything is possible. It's possible that dandruff is caused by microscopic goldminers digging in scalps for gold. However, such a thing has no evidence, and is therefore so improbable as not to warrant serious consideration.

 

[Arikay]

Lets think about this for a second. A dinosaur that can breath actual fire. If he was a plant eater, the ability to torch an entire forest or large section of food source doesn't seem like it would be too great a thing. If he was a meat eater, the ability to torch an entire forest or plant eaters food source forcing the plant eaters to move somewhere else, doesn't seem like a great thing either.
Remember, real fire doesn't stop when the dragon stops blowing it and real life isn't like the movies where fire is contained to only the propane sources or director specified flamable areas.

 

[Praxiteles]

Perhaps dragons didn't breathe fire in the conventional sense. Perhaps they merely lit their farts.

Mediaeval chroniclers wouldn't have been able to bring themselves to write that, so they described it as breathing fire.

 

[Lilandra]

an allusion to flatulence.

You've got that niche on this board cornered Praxiteles.

I wonder why we are still talking about real Dragons?!?! 2 weeks after the Animal Planet show?

Perhaps dragons didn't breathe fire in the conventional sense. Perhaps they merely lit their farts.

Mediaeval chroniclers wouldn't have been able to bring themselves to write that, so they described it as breathing fire.

 

[Praxiteles]

an allusion to flatulence.

You've got that niche on this board cornered Praxiteles.

I wonder why we are still talking about real Dragons?!?! 2 weeks after the Animal Planet show?

Thanks Lil. It's my forté, I feel.

It's quite astonishing that there are those who can seriously entertain the existence of such things, ain't it? I oughtn't be surprised, I guess. One of my close friends is adamant about the existence of fairies.

*shwug*

 

[Lilandra]

you definetly have fortitude. I'll give you that.

Thanks Lil. It's my forté, I feel.

It's quite astonishing that there are those who can seriously entertain the existence of such things, ain't it?