Dr. John Polkinghorne

[Elendur]

Infinite regression is impossible. evidence suggest the universe had a beginning.

Evidence suggests we can't 'see' beyond a point of time. What's beyond is mere speculations.

Since the universe had a beginning, it was brought into existence, thus there is a cause that brought it into existence.

The beginning is a speculation. But lets say for the arguments sake that it has one, why does it have to be brought into existence, implying that something preceded it?

since infinite regression is impossible, there is a first uncaused cause. since the uncaused cause is uncaused, the uncaused cause is eternal. since the uncaused cause is eternal. the uncaused cause is spaceless, timeless, changeless, immaterial. since the first uncaused cause is the cause of everything, the first uncaused cause which no greater can be conceived.

If I agree for the arguments sake that there is an uncaused cause, how do you know it's eternal, spaceless, timeless, changeless, immaterial and greater than what it caused?
Those are big assumptions.

that can be 1 of 2, an abstract object such as numbers, or a mind. since abstract objects do not cause anything, the first uncaused cause is a mind, therefore the first uncaused cause is God, God exist.

It surely can't be limited to those two, that's another strange assumption you've made.
And why are you saying that abstract objects doesn't cause anything? They could've in the time before time.
And that's under the assumptions granted above.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

SavedbyChris94, do you know what the "null hypothesis" is? Conversely, do you know what a positive assertion is? Do you know the difference between the two?

 

[Split Rock]

Proof and evidence for a "lack" of belief, or against God's existence, which no one has given because there is no evidence for it. there is evidence that proves God exist which I have provided. no one has provided any evidence for "atheism".

"atheism" is null and void, there are no "atheist", it is unjustified and false. "atheism" doesn't exist.

OK. We are through. Now you are doing nothing more than trolling and repeating your circular arguments in multiple threads over and over and over and over again. "no one has given evidence against my god because there isn't any, I have provided evidence which is I believe therefore my god exist, atheism doesn't exist because you cant prove it while I proved god because of the bible which shows I have faith in god which means god exists, if he exists then he is and he is the ultimate cause because I believe in god.

Don't bother replying to my posts anymore.. you are now on my Ignore list. Have a nice life.

 

[AV1611VET]

Don't bother replying to my posts anymore.. you are now on my Ignore list. Have a nice life.

For some reason, I can't picture you having anyone on IGNORE.

If you can tolerate me, you can tolerate anyone, eh?

 

[Freodin]

For some reason, I can't picture you having anyone on IGNORE.

If you can tolerate me, you can tolerate anyone, eh?

Oh, at least you have the habit of making somewhat amusing posts... sometimes.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

For some reason, I can't picture you having anyone on IGNORE.

If you can tolerate me, you can tolerate anyone, eh?

Nah,... you're like the kid in grade school that everyone picks on, but like having him around for the entertainment value.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nah,... you're like the kid in grade school that everyone picks on, but like having him around for the entertainment value.

... Awww, you sweet-talker, you!

 

[Split Rock]

For some reason, I can't picture you having anyone on IGNORE.

If you can tolerate me, you can tolerate anyone, eh?

You sell yourself a bit short. Although we often disagree here, I can have an actual discussion with you. I have no patience for people who repeat the same circular arguments over and over and are just here to troll the forum. As it turns out, my Ignore list is quite long. Most, however, didn't last long in the forum and don't post here anymore.