I may have discovered the problem you all have with Hovind...he makes evolution look stupid. I must ask, how many of you folks here actually believe in evolution?
I defended a man who is railed against without cause other than a host of staunch accusations that he is a "liar", but there seems to be an evidence deficit. The tiny horse comparison seems hysterical enough, I'm certain there is more to it than you presented troodon. I'll look into it with the whole story instead of some unsubstantiated snippet from "google.com"
AiG seems to find fault with him, but suprise, they are an "interpretive" biblical research ministry while Hovind is "literal". AiG does not take the word of God literally, they feel it needs to be interpreted. Okay - that settles the LIAR thing. Now let's start a thread about literal verses interpretive, we'll have plenty to go for that one I'm sure.
I do not agree with many of you, nor will you agree with me, but that doesn't make any of us liars outright does it? Now, I do have a bone to pick with evolution, so indulge me in a small rant:
If you guys are so sold on evolution and can beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt prove it...
Prove it. I dare you...start another thread, I'll be happy to indulge you with backwards ideas that God actually created the heavens and the earth in 6 literal days, the flood, etc. I'm game.
Evolution is a destructive theory that has fostered a fanatical cult following of people that hate God and despise any form of biblical counsel. It is as religious as it claims to be scientific.
It is the most magnificent lie of our time and oh how many turn their backs to God to induldge in its sweet offer to "have it your way". Evolution is a backstage pass to sin without consequence. Why not support it? Hey I can live life to the fullest without all of the obedience to some "imaginary" God that those dumb creationists argue made this place.
Hovind has a successful, soul-winning ministry. I have many family, and friends that actually have brains capable of critical, scientific thought, who have either renewed or found faith through Hovind's efforts. This guy isn't scamming people, he really cares about people. He cares about science. He is by no means without flaw, who the heck is? But he is living a brighter life for Christ than most of us - why the despising of this guy Phoenix? Who are you? And troodon - come on.
Evolutionists rebuffed by Peter:
2Pe 3:3-7 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
"Willingly ignorant" means "Stupid on purpose"
wblastyn: My qualifications consist of a MS is Physics and Aerodynamics. Now, granted that doesn't make me superman when it comes to evolutionary biology, but I do understand the fundamentals of physical matter clearly enough to know the difference between solid science and artificial science. I'm also a christian, and know the difference between a real christian and a fake one; I see character clearly enough to testify that Hovind is real - I'm not sure where AiG is, but they seem a bit argumentative...I'll look into them more closely. I believe in the Beginning 'God'...you may argue in the Beginning 'Dirt'. Well, I believe I may have missed your qualifications in your questioning of my own - do you have any beliefs of your own? Most folks that attack Hovind seem to be from the subjective relativism crowd that holds to a "dogma du jour" philosophy; "What's today's special, Reverend? Is it okay to kill babies, or marry gays now, or should we wait until enough political pressure causes us to change our mind (and doctrine) next year?"
Romans 1 makes a better point than I can. God's word does that better than our words. Thanks for allowing me the rant fellas. Good night.
Rom 1:18-32 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
