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Shifting the goalposts - have to add that to the lying.
This is not about the current global warming issue.
What lie?....it not my paper.Shifting the goalposts - have to add that to the lying.
Doomsday Clock is 100 seconds to midnight, the symbolic hour of the apocalypse
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists is moving the Doomsday Clock up to 100 seconds to midnight — a metaphor for the end of the world — in a recognition of growing threats from nuclear war, climate change and disinformation.
It is the first time the clock has passed the two-minute mark in more than 70 years of existence, a testament to the need for urgent action, the Bulletin said Thursday, as the nonprofit’s leader warned of influential leaders who “denigrate and discard the most effective methods for addressing complex threats.”
“The challenge is what do we do about it?” President Rachel Bronson told The Washington Post. In the clock’s grimmest moment ever, she believes years of dire warnings have begun to break through.
“People are starting to get it,” Bronson said, pointing to the movement ignited by teen climate activist Greta Thunberg. “But we need our leaders to be responding.”
Jerry Brown, the former California governor who serves as executive chair for the Bulletin, had a darker message after the clock was unveiled. The longtime Democratic politician said he sees “a world of vast, deep and pervasive complacency” toward the Doomsday Clock’s message across the political spectrum.
“What is being said this morning is not being heard,” Brown said. “It’s being ignored. It’s being denied.”
More at the link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/01/23/doomsday-clock/?mc_cid=ccb3b18cd8&mc_eid=688ab137ca&utm_campaign=ccb3b18cd8-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_04_08_09_12_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Albert Mohler
Sounds like you automatically disregard anyone who disagrees.
Yeah, @Aldebaran has evidence of that statement...see #76You have no evidence for this statement.
My intent was to accuse you, correctly, of moving the goalposts. If I implied you were lying that was poor word choice (accidental) on my part and I apologize.What lie?....it not my paper.
You clearly shift the goalposts - we are not talking about ice ages, we are talking about the current scientific position on human-caused global warming.So, you don't have an intelligent response outside side of 'shifting goalposts' and 'lying'.
Fact: The overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree that the evidence shows that climate change is human-caused.I agree that the climate is changing, but where is the proof, not the theory, that humans have caused it?
Growing threats from
- nuclear war,
- climate change
- ...and disinformation!
So climatology does not 'predict' the future based on the past? Then what do they use to tell us what will happen in the future?You clearly shift the goalposts - we are not talking about ice ages, we are talking about the current scientific position on human-caused global warming.
But that is not evidence/proof....that is simply opinion since they cannot/do not correlate that to past events. They are simply trying to predict the future.....Fact: The overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree that the evidence shows that climate change is human-caused.
Google 'Yellowstone Cauldera'. It's a super volcano right in the heart of the USA that is millennia overdue for an eruption. They are fracking the snot out of the overlaying rock. Trump may not have to take us down. We may be all blown up, or worse have to deal with the aftermath.I think a 2-3 degree rise in global temperatures is survivable. Last night I worried about rising temperatures without an endpoint. The amount of coal and hydrocarbons remaining in sedimentary rock formations is huge. England is largely deleted of coal. The US and Russia have large coal reserves remaining. Fracking shales and tight siltstone may result in the release of tremendous amounts of carbon dioxide from the combustion of petroleum products and natural gas. California shales are not good for fracking. Earthquakes already fracked that area. Minor past producing fields named Eagle Ford and Bakken are now major oil fields after fracking and the use of proppants.
The wolf did show up, and the people didn't respond because they were tired of hearing it.You got that backwards. Very backwards.
First, "climate change" is the most over-hyped thing they're using.
Second, the doomsday clock business is lumping all sort of different things together when they determine how close to doomsday we are. They've been trying to tell us that doomsday is right around the corner ever since my Dad turned 7 years old, which was 73 years ago. The climate change crowd has been giving us their own brand of doomsday predictions for quite some time now:
From 1983--
"John Hoffman, head of strategic studies for the EPA, told the New York Times, 'Major changes will be here by the years 1990 to 2000, and we have to learn how to live with them.'"
EPA report predicts catastrophic global warming
From 1989--
Governments Start Preparing for Global Warming Disasters
You can add to that listYou guys have nowhere to go on this issue in the sense that the overwhelming majority of climate scientists do indeed believe that climate change is a human-caused problem.
No amount of lying - and I do mean lying - and Dunning-Kruger can change this. And please note: in this post, I am not accusing you, in particular, of lying.
About the lying: There is a disturbing trend of lying on this site, especially in three areas:
- defending Donald Trump;
- climate change
- evolution
Often, the lying is carefully dressed up. But lying it remains. People may not like the fact that the overwhelming majority of climate scientists believe global warming is caused by us. But when people suggest this is not the case - that there is not a strong consensus from the experts on this matter - they are, by any reasonable standard, lying.
And this on a Christian site.
Could it be that - gasp - both man and nature are causing it in tandem?If what scientists say is of such high value to those who believe in this global warming thing, then why do people lie about the effects the sun is having on the earth, which is to a larger degree than what man is causing? And why can't they answer the question about how the great ice age ended without humans doing anything at all but possibly use campfires that could possibly affect the climate? Last Glacial Period - Wikipedia
The glacial ice in Canada is said to have been up to 2 miles thick. Not there anymore! And all without human intervention, unless humans had coal fired power plants 11,700 years ago.
That's pretty much how it works these days in most of society.Sounds like you automatically disregard anyone who disagrees. .
You clearly shift the goalposts - we are not talking about ice ages, we are talking about the current scientific position on human-caused global warming.
Fact: The overwhelming majority of climate scientists agree that the evidence shows that climate change is human-caused.
It can do it again? Of course it can. The question is not whether it can happen again, but whether it is happening again.FACT: The climate has drastically changed in the past without any human intervention. Therefore, it can do so again.
I do not care about what "people" say, I care about what actual qualified scientists say.
And, no, finding the 1 in 100 who disagrees with the other 99 does not make your case.
All you have to do, to gauge if someone is correct in their assumption, speculations, theories and view... is to see what they predict and then see if those predictions come true..Shifting the goalposts - have to add that to the lying.
This is not about the current global warming issue.
I'm not worried about any of that. Nor am I worried about some clock, controlled by men and women.I think a 2-3 degree rise in global temperatures is survivable. Last night I worried about rising temperatures without an endpoint. The amount of coal and hydrocarbons remaining in sedimentary rock formations is huge. England is largely deleted of coal. The US and Russia have large coal reserves remaining. Fracking shales and tight siltstone may result in the release of tremendous amounts of carbon dioxide from the combustion of petroleum products and natural gas. California shales are not good for fracking. Earthquakes already fracked that area. Minor past producing fields named Eagle Ford and Bakken are now major oil fields after fracking and the use of proppants.
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