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debiwebi said:That would be correct .... So you do not have to think about it....
D'Ann said:Good question. It is not the only serious sin that people care about when considering where to place a child. But when an organization is Catholic Charities and homosexuality is considered a mortal sin by Catholic Dogma, then for us, it is one of many serious sins to acknowledge and comprehend.
Homosexuality is a mortal sin against Catholic Dogma, just like adultery is and lying, cheating, stealing...
If a couple has a gambling problem and/or has an acholicism addiction and/or drug addiction/problem, as a Catholic adoption agency, in fair conscious, they could not allow this couple to adopt a child. The couple would first need to confess, repent and amend their lives. The problem with people who participate in the sin of homosexuality, is that they do not realize or comprehend, nor probably care, that they are in sin and need to confess, repent and amend their lives and so out of faithfulness to Catholic Dogma, Catholic Charities cannot allow homosexual couples to adopt.
I realize that this seems harsh and hurtful and I'm sorry and sadden for the pain and suffering that some have gone through due to the "system". I'm not sure what the answer is, but I do know that babies need love and a stable home with a mom and dad. Even in a separated/divorced home, a child still will have a mom and dad. In an same sex home, they truly only have either two moms or two dads. This is how I view it.
fragmentsofdreams said:If people really cared about not placing children in homes where they would be told that something that is a sin according to the Catholic Church is not a sin, they would investigate whether the couple uses artificial birth control, whether the couple includes one or more people that was previously divorced and remarried. They would refuse to let anyone but Catholics adopt. The reality is people accept people adopting children where they will be told that somethings aren't sins. That they only use that argument here reveals that they oppose this for some other reason.
CaDan said:Hi all!The only issue I am addressing is the factual claims that
1. Same sex couples routinely or habitually abuse or kill children.
Shelb5 said:Mean people suck? No, original sin sucks. Human depravity causes us to do evil even when, to the naked eye, evil looks like good.
The fact is we do not know the other procedures they use to determine anything so we cannot speculate here ....fragmentsofdreams said:If people really cared about not placing children in homes where they would be told that something that is a sin according to the Catholic Church is not a sin, they would investigate whether the couple uses artificial birth control, whether the couple includes one or more people that was previously divorced and remarried. They would refuse to let anyone but Catholics adopt. The reality is people accept people adopting children where they will be told that somethings aren't sins. That they only use that argument here reveals that they oppose this for some other reason.
PaladinDoodler said:I personally think that homosexuality is a much worse sin than using birth control. Yes, they are both mortal sins and so they are both very very bad sins but being in a homosexual relationship is just worse than birth control usage in my opinion.
ps139 said:Again, why do you assume that because I say X is bad, that I then think Y must be good? Or that I ignore Y. You completely missed the point of my post. My point was that in foster homes and in homosexual homes, children face different types of dangers, and how can we determine which are worse? Also, that one being bad does not de facto make the other good. Your response to me implies that you think I would knowingly place a child in a physically abusive home instead of a homosexual home (as in, I only care about one type of sin). I said nothing of the sort. I do not know what I would do, I'd likely look for a 3rd option, but I certainly wouldn't go around pretending that being raised with 2 daddies is beneficial for a child's soul and psychological development.
Veritas_et_Puritas said:When you use contraception you are attempting to deprive your body of its natural reproductive function...
Just a thought.
The Church has determined otherwise as far as their spiritual health is concerned period end of the argumentfragmentsofdreams said:My reply assumes that you would place children in a home where one or both spouses was previously married (unless you would say that is not a serious sin).
Being in the limbo of the foster care system does measurable harm to children. Being raised by homosexual parents does not measurably affect a child's development.
CaDan said:"But still it moves".
Perceivence said:So I can't even discuss things in this form as I could've in OBOB?
Oh well.
*reclines in chair*
CaDan, I don't like ice cream. D'ya have anything else to munch on?
WarriorAngel said:I am not familiar with everything they do, but will guess that they do not permit atheists to adopt either.
PaladinDoodler said:I personally think that homosexuality is a much worse sin than using birth control. Yes, they are both mortal sins and so they are both very very bad sins but being in a homosexual relationship is just worse than birth control usage in my opinion.
ps139 said:Only because we are incapable of precisely measuring such things.
ps139 said:Only because we are incapable of precisely measuring such things.
CaDan, how does "we cannot precisely measure such things" equate to "we cannot speak of them."CaDan said:Thus, we should refrain from making factual claims about such things.
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
ps139 said:CaDan, how does "we cannot precisely measure such things" equate to "we cannot speak of them."
Only material things can be precisely measured. All immaterial things cannot be , at least by us.
But we can know "good" from "bad," and right from wrong. We cannot precisely measure them, and if we remained silent about them the world would be in a lot worse shape than it is currently in.
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