DOGE

[Servus]

It's fine to fix a broken system. But if it results in the deaths of the innocent, then it's obviously not a reasonable approach.

If the Trump administration wants to take USAID staff, move those staff under a new agency and give them a different name, but otherwise retain programs in which people are dependent, then I don't see people complaining about that. However, as of right now, it's not clear that this is the administration's interest.

The state department doesn't have the staff for these programs. You can't just lay off 15,000 people and hope that their projects will magically just get picked up by some other people in another agency.

I'm sure it's being better thought out and handled than the millions are going to die scenario.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I'll wait to see exactly how anything cut by DOGE is actually affecting the US. What criteria are they using to see if a "DEI" position is actually DEI and not a high quality employee.

That's simple. First, we find out if they are completely loyal to Trump, if they're not, then they might be "DEI", the second criteria to look for is if they are white straight Christian men. If they aren't completely loyal to Trump and if they aren't any of these other things, they are definitely "DEI".

When you're building a plutocratic white "Christian" ethnostate, the most important thing is loyalty to the leader, so that you are following the agenda properly; after that it's making sure you're the right kind of person. And you know what the right kind of person is.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

OSHA didn't exist until 1971. How on earth did employees manage to survive before then?

Not very well by comparison.

"Since OSHA's establishment in 1971, workplace fatalities have been cut by 60 percent, and occupational injury and illness rates, by 40 percent. At the same time, U.S. employment has nearly doubled from 56 million workers at 3.5 million worksites to 105 million workers at nearly 6.9 million sites. The following milestones mark the agency's progress over the past 30 years in improving working environments for America's work force." https://www.osha.gov/aboutosha/30-y...lishment in 1971,illness rates, by 40 percent.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Are the American people really that confused? That they can't tell the difference between a transgender book in Peru, and vaccine programs that save millions of lives in Africa?

Did you see who we voted for? Of course the American people are confused.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Job 33:6]

I'm sure it's being better thought out and handled than the millions are going to die scenario.

Based on going on around the nation, I don't have much confidence. An example here of how the administration says one thing, but then the reality is another matter entirely:

It seems more like the administration is "figuring it out as they go" rather than really taking time to think these things through.

Acting now and asking questions later.

 

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US News “ “The DOGE team just discovered that FEMA sent $59M LAST WEEK to luxury hotels in New York City to house illegal migrants,” Musk wrote on X early Monday morning. “

 

[Postvieww]

x.com So sad , a pastor using his pulpit to promote violence and false scare tactics. All because of a much needed audit into fraud and misuse of taxpayer money.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Musk wrote on X early Monday morning. “

Elon writes a lot of things on Twitter.

Most of it has the same value as used toilet paper.

-CryptoLutheran

 

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DOGE Cancels Taxpayer-Funded Museum for Anthony Fauci What ! A taxpayer funded museum (EXHIBIT)for Fauci ??? DOGE is working for the American people to root out liberal waste. Corrrceted

 

[Postvieww]

Elon writes a lot of things on Twitter.

Most of it has the same value as used toilet paper.

-CryptoLutheran

Why is rooting out corruption in government spending a bad thing , described as used toilet paper? Could it be that the liberal slush fund is exposed?

 

[Job 33:6]

DOGE Cancels Taxpayer-Funded Museum for Anthony Fauci What ! A taxpayer funded museum for Fauci ??? DOGE is working for the American people to root out liberal waste.

It's not a museum for Fauci. It's talking about an exhibit at the NIH museum.

 

[Postvieww]

It's not a museum for Fauci. It's talking about an exhibit at the NIH museum.

From the above link: “The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has canceled over $180 million in contracts within a two-day period, including a $170,000 contract for an Anthony Fauci museum exhibit.

“In the past 48 hours, HHS canceled 62 contracts [sic] worth $182 million,” DOGE said on X.”

“These contracts were entirely for administrative expenses – none touched any healthcare programs. This included terminating a $168,000 contract for an Anthony Fauci exhibit at the NIH Museum.” I stand corrected. I should have said museum exhibit. I feel so much better about it now. Tell us how many babies would that exhibit save?

 

[Job 33:6]

I stand corrected. I should have said museum exhibit.

Great. All the best then. Let's consider some reasons why an Anthony Fauci exhibit might be worthwhile at an NIH museum:

Dr. Anthony Fauci has had a significant career in public health and infectious disease research. Some of his key achievements include:

1. HIV/AIDS Research and Response (1980s–Present)
   • Led early research on HIV/AIDS at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).
   • Played a key role in developing treatments, helping transform AIDS from a fatal disease to a manageable condition.
   • Helped establish the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), which has saved millions of lives worldwide.
2. Ebola Response (2014–2016)
   • Assisted in the development of an Ebola vaccine and containment strategies.
3. SARS, MERS, and Pandemic Preparedness
   • Worked on public health strategies for multiple outbreaks, including SARS (2003) and MERS (2012).
4. COVID-19 Pandemic Response (2020–2022)
   • Served as the face of the U.S. government’s pandemic response, advising multiple administrations.
   • Promoted mask-wearing, vaccines, and public health measures to mitigate COVID-19 spread.
   • Contributed to the development and distribution of mRNA vaccines.
5. Medical Research and Vaccine Development
   • Played a role in funding and guiding vaccine research, including for influenza and other emerging infectious diseases.
   • Published over 1,000 scientific papers in immunology and infectious diseases.
6. Government Service
   • Director of NIAID from 1984 to 2022, serving under seven U.S. presidents.
   • Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2008 for his work on HIV/AIDS.

Is This a Reasonable Exhibit to Have?​

Yes, an exhibit about Dr. Fauci could be reasonable, considering his major contributions to medicine and public health. Museums often highlight influential scientists, such as Jonas Salk (polio vaccine) or Louis Pasteur (germ theory). Fauci’s work has affected millions of lives, making him a fitting subject for historical documentation.

However, given the political polarization surrounding his role in the COVID-19 pandemic, the exhibit might be controversial. Critics argue that some of his policies were flawed or inconsistent, which could impact how the exhibit is received. If balanced and fact-based, though, such an exhibit would align with how public health figures are typically recognized in historical contexts.

 

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59 million in FEMA funds to NY for illegals. Illegal use of FEMA funds. Could the ravaged citizens in NC have benefited from this money?

 

[lifepsyop]

Why is rooting out corruption in government spending a bad thing , described as used toilet paper? Could it be that the liberal slush fund is exposed?

It's the regime-Left's entire financial-political-patronage network being deconstructed, which is why they're so angry. They don't actually care about any of these programs. They just know that they're losing power and they can't stand it.

 

[Postvieww]

Great. All the best then. Let's consider some reasons why an Anthony Fauci exhibit might be worthwhile at an NIH museum:

Dr. Anthony Fauci has had a significant career in public health and infectious disease research. Some of his key achievements include:

1. HIV/AIDS Research and Response (1980s–Present)
   • Led early research on HIV/AIDS at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).
   • Played a key role in developing treatments, helping transform AIDS from a fatal disease to a manageable condition.
   • Helped establish the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), which has saved millions of lives worldwide.
2. Ebola Response (2014–2016)
   • Assisted in the development of an Ebola vaccine and containment strategies.
3. SARS, MERS, and Pandemic Preparedness
   • Worked on public health strategies for multiple outbreaks, including SARS (2003) and MERS (2012).
4. COVID-19 Pandemic Response (2020–2022)
   • Served as the face of the U.S. government’s pandemic response, advising multiple administrations.
   • Promoted mask-wearing, vaccines, and public health measures to mitigate COVID-19 spread.
   • Contributed to the development and distribution of mRNA vaccines.
5. Medical Research and Vaccine Development
   • Played a role in funding and guiding vaccine research, including for influenza and other emerging infectious diseases.
   • Published over 1,000 scientific papers in immunology and infectious diseases.
6. Government Service
   • Director of NIAID from 1984 to 2022, serving under seven U.S. presidents.
   • Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2008 for his work on HIV/AIDS.

Is This a Reasonable Exhibit to Have?​

Yes, an exhibit about Dr. Fauci could be reasonable, considering his major contributions to medicine and public health. Museums often highlight influential scientists, such as Jonas Salk (polio vaccine) or Louis Pasteur (germ theory). Fauci’s work has affected millions of lives, making him a fitting subject for historical documentation.

However, given the political polarization surrounding his role in the COVID-19 pandemic, the exhibit might be controversial. Critics argue that some of his policies were flawed or inconsistent, which could impact how the exhibit is received. If balanced and fact-based, though, such an exhibit would align with how public health figures are typically recognized in historical contexts.

Sounds like you should donate to the fund for the exhibit. Fauci could be charged at the state level for his crimes. We shall see.

 

[Job 33:6]

Sounds like you should donate to the fund for the exhibit. Fauci could be charged at the state level for his crimes. We shall see.

Do you have any other cringe conspiracy theories that you'd like the share today?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Occupational health and safety? Who needs that? Workman's Comp? Let them toil for minimum wage and take their chances! It worked well in South Africa under apartheid, after all.
Some people need to take off those veils of impenetrability and see what's really happening. And conservative media is complicit in reinforcing those veils of impenetrability.

How much of that is on the government? It is not the government's job to protect people from all bad, nor is it their job to provide everything to everyone (that is why while I do support social programs I also support strict limits as to who can be on them ( welfare based ones what can be purchased ect, but that is a topic for another thread.

 

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Do you have any other cringe conspiracy theories that you'd like the share today?

You should learn the difference between real facts and conspiracy theories. What conspiracy theories have I posted here? Facts please.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Well.. some did. Some did not.

Accidental workplace deaths have fallen 60% since OSHA.

However, I do agree OSHA has gotten too nutty. There has to be some balance between too much safety regulations and none at all.

I'll admit that I don't have a huge amount of faith that companies believe worker safety > $.

If workers felt that way then in at will employment which is the vast majority of employment they could just up and leave ( with or without a two week notice though such is adviced. Even in cases where an employee is under contract there is NO requirement to re-up when the contract is up.