Does the Pope Really Aprrove Spanking Children?

[bill5]

The point is that pain teaches "No" quite effectively; especially in those who lack the capacity for to fully understand or reason their way to an answer.

Too many people today treat children like little adults; bowing to their demands and expecting them to understand as an adult can, but a child needs "simpler" until they are able to understand "complex".

A slap on the wrist does not mean "dad is dangerous".

There you go again, preaching common sense. You dinosaur!

Props for hanging in there, but you realize you're wasting your time, right? There is no rational discussion to be had here.

 

[Inkfingers]

There you go again, preaching common sense. You dinosaur!

Props for hanging in there, but you realize you're wasting your time, right? There is no rational discussion to be had here.

What can I say, I'm optimist.

 

[Inkfingers]

Immediate compliance.

No, ongoing recall

Or are you unable to remember how sticking your hand in a flame really hurt and so will do it again and again and again?

 

[judechild]

I think I'll stick with the Catholic sources I trust, over a message board poster. Good night now.

That'd work if I thought I'd just given you my opinion without justifying it, but since I did, you have no grounds for that silliness. If you want to call what I said a "twisting" of the translation, then you've gone beyond "sticking with the sources" that you trust by actively judging my own translation. But you don't have the tools to make that judgment, hence you should find someone who can, if you really do want to say that I don't know what I'm talking about. Would you care, though, to explain how you think that your trusted sources would translate the word picchiare "spank," when the father in the story says "but not on the face"? Has the notion of spanking become more general in the time I've been gone?

Reading the Italian newspapers on this has been rather intense. You might also be interested to know that the story of the father was off the prepared text - i.e. he chose himself the words that he used. In any case, like I said to Fantine, the point is that he's striking (no pun intended) a balance between absenteeism and autocracy, not advocating a particular punishment per se.

 

[AvilaSurfer]

That'd work if I thought I'd just given you my opinion without justifying it, but since I did, you have no grounds for that silliness. If you want to call what I said a "twisting" of the translation, then you've gone beyond "sticking with the sources" that you trust by actively judging my own translation. But you don't have the tools to make that judgment, hence you should find someone who can, if you really do want to say that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Reading the Italian newspapers on this has been rather intense.

Last post on this because it's become a stupid argument.
Sorry, I've bounced around several credible Catholic web sites, and you translation is wrong. None of them agree with you. I 'll trust them.

 

[Blue Wren]

The headline, it feels to me to be misleading, of what the Pope was saying.

Spanking was made illegal in my country, when my own parents were still children. Parents still discipline, and punish, of course. They do not use corporal punishment, no.

I think, what he said, about the importance of fathers, was very true. Very nice. I wish, that had been the focus, instead of spanking.

 

[ebia]

No, ongoing recall

Or are you unable to remember how sticking your hand in a flame really hurt and so will do it again and again and again?

Funnily enough I've put my hand through a flame without it hurting far more times than with it hurting.

The only thing I can recall having learned by being hurt is "if you stand in a tight corner it stops your mum getting a good swing at your legs".

 

[judechild]

Sorry, I've bounced around several credible Catholic web sites, and you translation is wrong. None of them agree with you. I 'll trust them.

Fine by me if this is your last post, but you if you ever feel like asking yourself "would I ever call hitting a child on the mouth 'spanking on the face'?" it may help you come to a clearer idea of what Francis said; since that would have to be the case, if the very poor translation you referenced were correct. You don't need to know Italian to understand that.

There's a word for "spank," and he didn't use it; get over it.

 

[Root of Jesse]

For a man who keeps trying to spread world peace and fighting abortion, I don't see how he could agree. But I want to see his actual quote about the subject.

You might want to go look for the actual quote. I recommend this anytime someone questions what the Pope actually said. Don't be so lazy about it. The context is very important.

 

[Tallguy88]

I don't see a big deal. Sometimes kids need a spanking. Not sure why so many people are squeamish about that.

 

[Michie]

Let me put my cards on the table. As I’ve written before, my own conviction is that the issue of corporal punishment is one for parents to decide. I have known some parents who have successfully raised children using it seldom or never. I also know there are parents who feel it has played an important and needed role in raising their children...

What exactly did Pope Francis say about spanking your kids?

 

[houseofsaul]

Amen and amen. Bible says, spare the rod, spoil the child. I believe in corporal punishment 100%

 

[houseofsaul]

Falling into a bed of nettles is a far more effective lesson than being told about how they sting...

Lol. ROFL. This is so true!