Does the Pope actually have ANY authority??

[LivingWordUnity]

Out of curiosity say if a cardinal is elected pope who try as he might he just can not believe jesus was the son of god.. would that pope still be valid?

I've heard about at least one Pope in history that allegedly held to a heresy before he was elected, but the story goes that he renounced the heresy at the time he became the Pope. And there have been antipopes in history (someone who claimed to be the Pope when he wasn't validly elected). If a Pope was validly elected in the first place then that doesn't change. And although a validly elected Pope is protected by the Holy Spirit from teaching heresy, this protection from error only applies when he is teaching formally and definitively from the chair of Peter on a matter of Christian faith and/or morals. And I think that limit implies that at other times it could be possible for him to either teach error or privately believe in it. But if a Pope holds a heretical belief while going through the process of getting elected, and he lies about his beliefs in order to get elected it seems like that would invalidate his election like how a marriage can be annulled based on deception going into it. If a man is elected this way only God would know that he secretly held a heretical belief unless he had let someone else in on his secret.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Out of curiosity say if a cardinal is elected pope who try as he might he just can not believe jesus was the son of god.. would that pope still be valid?

Hypothetical, cannot happen. A cardinal who just cannot believe Jesus is the son of God?

 

[IHOM]

I know the catholic church says that any male catholic can be elected pope and doesnt even need to come from the college of cardinals....but what of pope francis' jesuit's oath not to seek higher office and not to accept a "promotion" without approval of his superior.... would he have had to get aproval from his superior before accepting... how could he if he was in conclave??? Would accepting without permision be breaking his oath??? unless he asked permision before hand in that case wouldnt he be actively seeking higher office.... and that would be breaking an oath... if you break an oath you take to your order would that be akin to a married couple divorcing and commiting adultery?

Would a divorced catholic elected pope be valid?

Would a cardinal who broke his oath to becone pope be valid?

I am not saying pope francis could not be elected pope... because the superior could have said to him before "if your voted for you may accept"

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Hypothetical, cannot happen. A cardinal who just cannot believe Jesus is the son of God?

There were many bishops who subscribed to the heresy of Arianism in the 4th century which denied the divinity of Jesus Christ. So it's possible that a cardinal can be a heretic and deny that Jesus is the son of God.

 

[James Is Back]

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[James Is Back]

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Thread closed permanently for flaming/goading and off topic violations. Since you guys didn't listen the first time we are closing this for good. In the future don't flame/goad each other and stick to the topic at hand.

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