Does the Father have higher authority than the Son?

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Does the Father have higher authority than the Son?

 

[friend of]

Keep in mind, Jesus said that no one knoweth the day or hour while He was on earth. While Jesus was on earth, He set aside His omniscience and walked as a man. I'm sure it's quite possible that Jesus knows now when He will come back.

As for your question head on. I'd trend towards yes.

 

[Br4nd0n]

And then matthew 28:18 he is given all power again. I heard they are ontologically equal in and of themselves, but there is deference. Son points to the Father, Spirit points to Son.

 

[disciple Clint]

Keep in mind, Jesus said that no one knoweth the day or hour while He was on earth. While Jesus was on earth, He set aside His omniscience and walked as a man. I'm sure it's quite possible that Jesus knows now when He will come back.

As for your question head on. I'd trend towards yes.

No Jesus did not set aside anything, He was and is 100% man and 100% God with all the powers that God has.

 

[disciple Clint]

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Does the Father have higher authority than the Son?

NO there is one God, the three persons are equal but have different areas of responsibility.
What Is the Economic and Immanent Trinity? | Zondervan Academic

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Does the Father have higher authority than the Son?

If the Father , Son and Holy Spirit are One, they are equal. If they are not One, then the Trinity falls apart. Ezekiel's vision showed One Throne and we know Jesus Christ of Nazareth always existed " I Am the Alpha and Omega". We also know the Holy Spirit is how He makes His Home in us. Jesus Christ of Nazareth is God in the flesh, God is our Father," we will come to him and make our home in him."
Isaiah described Him perfectly:
For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder. And His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

 

[Jonaitis]

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Does the Father have higher authority than the Son?

I would say no.

It is believed by many that this passage refers to the human incarnation of Son.

 

[friend of]

No Jesus did not set aside anything, He was and is 100% man and 100% God with all the powers that God has.

Then why did Jesus say that no man knows not even the Son but the Father only?

 

[disciple Clint]

Then why did Jesus say that no man knows not even the Son but the Father only?

Jesus was both man and God He frequently spoke as a man.

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

Jesus said that when he was on the Earth, but now he is in Heaven, so He knows his time, he and the Father is One.

 

[GDL]

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Does the Father have higher authority than the Son?

For consideration:

NKJ Corinthians 15:22-28 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For "He has put all things under His feet1." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

Trinity aside for moment, while a father exists, is a son ever a higher authority? Can a father grant equal authority to a son?

 

[disciple Clint]

For consideration:

NKJ Corinthians 15:22-28 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For "He has put all things under His feet1." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

Trinity aside for moment, while a father exists, is a son ever a higher authority? Can a father grant equal authority to a son?

The is only one God not 3 or two separate from one anoter, just one and therefore only one all powerful God who is subject to nothing or no one.

 

[LayHong_Loves_Christ]

Some say we only will see The Son Jesus in heaven.
We will not be able to see the Father and the Holy Ghost.
Is that true?

 

[disciple Clint]

Some say we only will see The Son Jesus in heaven.
We will not be able to see the Father and the Holy Ghost.
Is that true?

The Father and The Holy Spirit do not have a body, They are spirit, Jesus has a glorified body, when you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father because He is a living example of God in a form that we can see and understand.

 

[Wayne Gabler]

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Does the Father have higher authority than the Son?

Based on just this one verse, the answer is 'Yes'.
1Co:15:27:
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.

This supports two beings:
M't:26:39:
And he went a little further,
and fell on his face,
and prayed,
saying,
O my Father,
if it be possible,
let this cup pass from me:
nevertheless not as I will,
but as thou wilt.

As does this. It is how God views all mortal flesh, when a person is in a sinless glorified body then God likes the way they look:
Isa:53:2-4:
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant,
and as a root out of a dry ground:
he hath no form nor comeliness;
and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men;
a man of sorrows,
and acquainted with grief:
and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised,
and we esteemed him not.
Surely he hath borne our griefs,
and carried our sorrows:
yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of God,
and afflicted.

 

[Clare73]

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Does the Father have higher authority than the Son?

In disclosing the mystery of the Trinity, Jesus shows the following set of relationships:

1) The Son is subject to the Father, for the Son is sent by the Father in the Father's name (John 5:23, John 5:36, John 5:43).

2) The Spirit is subject to the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Father in the Son's name. (John 14:26).

3) The Spirit is subject to the Son as well as the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Son as well as the Father (John 15:26, John 16:7, John 14:26).

So Jesus discloses the mystery of the Trinity in three distinct and separate persons, in one God--the Son doing the will of the Father, and the Spirit doing the will of the Father and the Son.

 

[Wayne Gabler]

One more verse to add to the thread.
Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.

 

[Wayne Gabler]

In disclosing the mystery of the Trinity, Jesus shows the following set of relationships:

1) The Son is subject to the Father, for the Son is sent by the Father in the Father's name (John 5:23, John 5:36, John 5:43).

2) The Spirit is subject to the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Father in the Son's name. (John 14:26).

3) The Spirit is subject to the Son as well as the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Son as well as the Father (John 15:26, John 16:7, John 14:26).

So Jesus discloses the mystery of the Trinity in three distinct and separate persons, in one God--the Son doing the will of the Father, and the Spirit doing the will of the Father and the Son.

The human family in the Bible is a mirror of how things work in heaven.
What would your points look like if Adam and Eve and one of their children were the 3 beings involved?

 

[Clare73]

The human family in the Bible is a mirror of how things work in heaven.
What would your points look like if Adam and Eve and one of their children were the 3 beings involved?

They would look like heresy according to what Jesus and the NT present, starting with John 1:1.

 

[RDKirk]

Keep in mind, Jesus said that no one knoweth the day or hour while He was on earth. While Jesus was on earth, He set aside His omniscience and walked as a man. I'm sure it's quite possible that Jesus knows now when He will come back.

As for your question head on. I'd trend towards yes.

Yes. I doubt five pounds of wet meat can contain all the information of all eternity of the entire universe. But I do think Jesus while on earth had instant access to whatever knowledge He needed to carry out His mission on earth. Kind of like in the movie "The Matrix" when Trinity needed to know instantly how to pilot a helicopter.

But the key point is: He had whatever knowledge He needed to carry out His mission. Jesus would not have been idlily curious about things He did not need to know at that moment.