Does Science Agree With the Bible?

[joshua 1 9]

What about this passage?

Matthew 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

That passage shows Mary was a Virgin right up to when she gave birth. There is no mention of after she gave birth. Matthew really did not know Mary. It was Luke that spent a lot of time listening to Mary to hear the stories that she would tell people.

Luke 1:3 "It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,"

A lot of what we know about Joseph and Mary comes from apocryphal literature. They are accepted by the Catholic church but not as widely accepted in the protestant churches.

CHURCH FATHERS: The History of Joseph the Carpenter

 

[HitchSlap]

The Bible says what God says. The Bible is the written word of God. That is why the Bible is 100% accurate and true.

The bible is true because the bible says it's true... and on it goes.

 

[dad]

The bible is true because the bible says it's true... and on it goes.

The bible is not true because you say it is not true. Round and round you go.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The bible is true because the bible says it's true... and on it goes.

The Bible is true because the Bible is 100% testable and no one has ever proven anything in the Bible NOT to be true. The Bible is the Old and New Testament or Covenant. A Covenant by it's very nature is testable.

cov·e·nant
ˈkəvənənt/
noun

1. 1.
   an agreement.
   synonyms: contract, agreement, undertaking, commitment, guarantee, warrant, pledge, promise, bond, indenture; pact, deal, settlement, arrangement, understanding

 

[joshua 1 9]

The bible is not true because you say it is not true. Round and round you go.

We use the Science method to test the Bible to show that the Bible is absolute truth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The bible is not true because you say it is not true. Round and round you go.

We don't use circular reasoning to find flaws in the Bible.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The Bible is true because the Bible is 100% testable and no one has ever proven anything in the Bible NOT to be true. The Bible is the Old and New Testament or Covenant. A Covenant by it's very nature is testable.

cov·e·nant
ˈkəvənənt/
noun

1. 1.
   an agreement.
   synonyms: contract, agreement, undertaking, commitment, guarantee, warrant, pledge, promise, bond, indenture; pact, deal, settlement, arrangement, understanding

No flood of Noah, no Adam and Eve. Pretty much all of Genesis and Exodus.

 

[AV1611VET]

We don't use circular reasoning to find flaws in the Bible.

Lower criticism tries to pwn the Bible from within Its pages; while higher criticism tries to pwn It from without.

 

[dad]

We use the Science method to test the Bible to show that the Bible is absolute truth.

I know He is true, and His word also. I was using sarcasm.

 

[dad]

We don't use circular reasoning to find flaws in the Bible.

No? I guess science goes to great lengths to ignore the bible altogether then? I find it is often the little pretenders that try to say it does. They typically use 6 doses of bad attitude, 3 doses of ignorance, a sprinkle of actual science, and i dose of discombobulated bible verses. As predictable as a cackling crow.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No? I guess science goes to great lengths to ignore the bible altogether then? I find it is often the little pretenders that try to say it does. They typically use 6 doses of bad attitude, 3 doses of ignorance, a sprinkle of actual science, and i dose of discombobulated bible verses. As predictable as a cackling crow.

Why would you assume that "great lengths" are necessary? And please, you are merely projecting your traits upon others again.

Scientists simply do not try to prove or disprove the existence of God or gods. They simply observe and analyze. If you have a false belief that is exposed you really should not complain. You should change your false beliefs.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lower criticism tries to pwn the Bible from within Its pages; while higher criticism tries to pwn It from without.

No one is trying to "pwn" the Bible. Facts are just facts. In the past very few people took Genesis literally. That is a concept that began in the 1800's. The fact that everyone and everything is a product of evolution does not mean that the whole Bible is worthless.

Lately there has been an upsurge in the belief of a flat Earth by some Bible literalists. They base their belief on the fact that the Bible only describing the Earth as a flat, unmoving, fixed body. Do you agree with them? I am fairly sure that you don't. So is the Bible "wrong", or is their interpretation of the Bible wrong?

 

[dad]

Why would you assume that "great lengths" are necessary?

Consistently, methodically and predictably omitting the creator from a creation that screams out the glory of God can be no accident. If they admitted the forest rather than ignoring the forest for the trees, they would need a new job.

not try to prove or disprove the existence of God or gods. They simply observe and analyze. If you have a false belief that is exposed you really should not complain. You should change your false beliefs.

It is more a case of declaring there is no God.
Then they view the evidence accordingly.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Consistently, methodically and predictably omitting the creator from a creation that screams out the glory of God can be no accident. If they admitted the forest rather than ignoring the forest for the trees, they would need a new job.

You don't seem to understand. The burden of proof is upon those that claim that there was a "creator" and a "creation" in the first place. Not jumping to conclusions without any valid support is not "omitting".

It is more a case of declaring there is no God.
Then they view the evidence accordingly.

When have they ever declared that "there is no God"?

They simply cannot assume such claims either way without evidence.

Once again you are merely projecting your beliefs.

 

[AV1611VET]

Lately there has been an upsurge in the belief of a flat Earth by some Bible literalists.

This upsurge is probably due to the Internet, where Poe's Law thrives.

They base their belief on the fact that the Bible only describing the Earth as a flat, unmoving, fixed body.

Did you see me do the same thing, when I poe'd STEVE PETERSEN and HUMBLE SERVANT OF CHRIST, starting here:

The Great Flood

Do you agree with them?

No. I'm sure they're just having fun at science's expense.

I am fairly sure that you don't.

Right you are!

So is the Bible "wrong", or is their interpretation of the Bible wrong?

The Bible is poetry and metaphor, and their interpretation is wrong on purpose.

 

[HitchSlap]

We use the Science method to test the Bible to show that the Bible is absolute truth.

The "Science method" does not support a worldwide flood.

 

[HitchSlap]

The bible is not true because you say it is not true. Round and round you go.

It really doesn't matter what I say about the bible, it's either true, or it isn't. The question is, what does reality suggest.

 

[HitchSlap]

Lower criticism tries to pwn the Bible from within Its pages; while higher criticism tries to pwn It from without.

Both seem sufficiently successful.

 

[AV1611VET]

Both seem sufficiently successful.

Any "success" is going to be turned into a Cadmean victory in the end.

 

[Subduction Zone]

This upsurge is probably due to the Internet, where Poe's Law thrives.

I don't think that there are that many poe's out there. And that was not a real response, it was a dodge. Dodging amounts to admitting that you are wrong.

Did you see me do the same thing, when I poe'd STEVE PETERSEN and HUMBLE SERVANT OF CHRIST, starting here:

The Great Flood

You are openly admitting that you lied? Or perhaps you do not know what a poe is.

No. I'm sure they're just having fun at science's expense.

That makes no sense either. It would not be at "science's expense". It would be at the expense of the Bible. You do not seem to know what a poe is. And that is highly dubious. These people appear to be rather serious Christians.

Right you are!The Bible is poetry and metaphor, and their interpretation is wrong on purpose.

That is more than a stretch. Why would a Christian do so? It seems my questions are too much for you.