Does Modern Science Align with the Bible?

[Humble Penny]

Wisdom is another deity of the godhead? Where are you getting that from?

Read Proverbs 8 it's Wisdom bearing witness that She was present with God at creation. Also if you read Genesis 1 you can infer that if God made mankind make and female it would follow that God had a female counterpart since it's clear throughout the entire Bible that God is referred to as He.

Ok but in your post you did say that you couldn’t see any rotation of the earth on that video. I was explaining why.

There's no need to explain anything that isn't moving the earth simply is shown not to be moving nor do we on the ground observe to move while standing on the earth or out at sea. While the rocket video was wobbly the balloons weren't.

The sun stopped relevant to their perspective. That’s what it means. What actually happened was the earth stopped spinning which would make the sun stop moving from their perspective. You do know that when it’s night time in America it’s day time in the Philippines right? That can’t happen on a flat earth.

No, it plainly says God commanded the Sun to stop moving, period. If the earth stopped spinning God would've corrected Joshua's words and we should read that God commanded the earth to stop moving.

 

[Humble Penny]

Here's another video from a pro-glober with a high altitude balloon launched at 100,000 Feet...yet again captured with a fish-eye lens...seems to be a common theme among these videos...yet when the balloon steadies itself the horizon is straight. And as in the other videos no movement or observed curve.

 

[Humble Penny]

Here's an hour long video done by a science group called Youth On the Air showing their high altitude balloon reach 97,000 Feet in the air. There's no sign of curvature or motion of the earth. Also something interesting you'll notice in all of these pro-glober videos is that not once do we see the continents as we are told they are shaped...makes you wonder what else weve been lie to about?

Now seeing that my studies have been focused on business, chronology, and history you will not hear me trying to argue from any other discipline because I don't have the knowledge or expertise to do so. That said since we have video cameras we should've been able to decisively prove the nature of the earth... however these videos I've uploaded contradict the supposed footage provided by NASA: therefore this seriously calls into question their entire credibility and makes one wonder where they got their data from.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Read Proverbs 8 it's Wisdom bearing witness that She was present with God at creation. Also if you read Genesis 1 you can infer that if God made mankind make and female it would follow that God had a female counterpart since it's clear throughout the entire Bible that God is referred to as He.


There's no need to explain anything that isn't moving the earth simply is shown not to be moving nor do we on the ground observe to move while standing on the earth or out at sea. While the rocket video was wobbly the balloons weren't.


No, it plainly says God commanded the Sun to stop moving, period. If the earth stopped spinning God would've corrected Joshua's words and we should read that God commanded the earth to stop moving.

Proverbs is a collection of proverbial sayings and idioms. They’re metaphorical not intended to be taken literally. I disagree that we can infer that a female counterpart existed in the beginning before creation. A proverbial saying is not conclusive evidence to support such an inference.

The first video is 3 minutes 20 seconds and keeps moving. The earth is rotating 24 times slower than the hour hand on a clock. You can’t see the hour hand on a clock move in 3 minutes let along something moving 24 times slower than that.

In the second video the ballon is moving and the camera is not still and the video is roughly 8 minutes at high altitude again your not going to be able to see something moving that take 24 hours to make one rotation.

It was not revealed to man the secrets of the planet or the universe. Motion is relevant to perspective. From Joshua’s perspective the sun stopped moving, from the universe’s perspective the earth stopped rotating.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Read Proverbs 8 it's Wisdom bearing witness that She was present with God at creation. Also if you read Genesis 1 you can infer that if God made mankind make and female it would follow that God had a female counterpart since it's clear throughout the entire Bible that God is referred to as He.


There's no need to explain anything that isn't moving the earth simply is shown not to be moving nor do we on the ground observe to move while standing on the earth or out at sea. While the rocket video was wobbly the balloons weren't.


No, it plainly says God commanded the Sun to stop moving, period. If the earth stopped spinning God would've corrected Joshua's words and we should read that God commanded the earth to stop moving.

You never addressed my video showing the ship going over the horizon and coming back.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Here's another video from a pro-glober with a high altitude balloon launched at 100,000 Feet...yet again captured with a fish-eye lens...seems to be a common theme among these videos...yet when the balloon steadies itself the horizon is straight. And as in the other videos no movement or observed curve.

Why are you even posting these videos? The camera is moving all over the place. Can you see an hour hand on a clock moving while your turning your head all over the place? The hour hand on a clock is rotating 24 times faster than the earth.

 

[Humble Penny]

Now for comparison we saw videos from amateurs so, we should expect something better from NASA right? Afterall they have the money and equipment and manpower:

After ~12 Hours of video footage the best NASA can give us are CGI videos and tons of clouds...and no panned out view for everyone to see it as a clear globe? Well today they claim it's actually a pear...but we have no evidence of that...

How is it possible for pro-glober earth amateurs to capture better aerial video of the earth than NASA?

 

[Paul4JC]

@Humble Penny nice to see that your thread took flight!

 

[Paul4JC]

Yep, yep, and agree. And yes also, equilux will depend on where you are on the planet, (latitude).

What text do you get the term planet from?

 

[daq]

What text do you get the term planet from?

That was not a reference to any scripture, (if that is what you mean by text).

 

[Humble Penny]

@Humble Penny nice to see that your thread took flight!

Yes me too lol! Seems my common sense approach stirred the beehive! If only these adherents understood that pilots and sailors use plane geometry and not spherical geometry for their travels

 

[Humble Penny]

While i cannot tell anyone the shape of the earth or explain the motions of heavenly bodies: I praise God for helping me break free from the lies of this Truman studio created by Satan.

 

[daq]

Wisdom is another deity of the godhead? Where are you getting that from?

Yikes, I didn't even see that post until you mentioned it. Thanks for questioning it. Just so you know, that is not something Messianics typically believe.

 

[Humble Penny]

Here's a hilarious video of scientists explaining that we've never left the Earth's atmosphere lol and thus never went to "space"

So NASA collects tons of money back in my dad's and grandparents day in order to participate in the "Space Race", claim we went to space and landed on the moon...and now 53 Years later...we never actually went to space Guess people will believe whatever comes out of a rich persons mouth.

Here's another video showing NASA tell us that we can't get past the Van Allen Radiation Belt:

And here's another video saying we can lol:

This is funny because when you look at these pictures of the Van Allen Radiation Belts it makes you wonder why NASA would need to plan on getting through them when they supposedly avoided the inner belts and traveled along the outer belts:

As you can see from the illustrations how exactly did NASA get past these inner radiation belts when they clearly look like they envelope the supposed globe? The pictures don't even make it clear how the inner belt was avoided so quickly for Apollo to all of a sudden make it to the outer belts.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Here's a hilarious video of scientists explaining that we've never left the Earth's atmosphere lol and this never went to "space"

So NASA collects tons of money back in my dad's and grandparents day in order to participate in the "Space Race", claim we went to space and landed on the moon...and now 53 Years later...we never actually went to space Guess people will believe whatever comes out of a rich persons mouth.

Here's another video showing NASA tell us that we can't get past the Van Allen Radiation Belt:

And here's another video saying we can lol:

This is funny because when you look at these pictures of the Van Allen Radiation Belts it makes you wonder why NASA would need to plan on getting through them when they supposedly avoided the inner belts and traveled along the outer belts:

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As you can see from the illustrations how exactly did NASA get past these inner radiation belts when they clearly look like they envelope the supposed globe? The pictures don't even make it clear how the inner belt was avoided so quickly for Apollo to all of a sudden make it to the outer belts.

You still never addressed this video

 

[Humble Penny]

You still never addressed this video

There's nothing to address here why? Because the high altitude balloons in the videos I shared show the earth has no curvature: means that on land and sea there is none either. Therefore whatever the valid explanation should be I couldn't tell you because I'm no scientist. You can't argue against +109,000 Feet of altitude in the air....which is plenty enough birds eye view...and note carefully that the videos I shared were from pro-globers which means I'm not being biased.

 

[Humble Penny]

You still never addressed this video

There's nothing to address here why? Because the high altitude balloons show the earth has no curvature: means that on land and sea there is none either. Therefore whatever the valid explanation should be I couldn't tell you because I'm no scientist. You can't argue against +109,000 Feet of altitude in the air....which is plenty enough birds eye view...and note carefully that the videos I shared were from pro-globers which means I'm not being biased.

One other thing I will add is that from my years of experience driving and riding public transit I can definitely tell the difference when I'm driving a straight line or the road is ascending or descending. And for anyone who's driven on a straight road in hot weather will see similar things to what is shared in that video you posted yet...the road is straight.

If you're a scientist then you should be able to explain it, but it sounds like you're not one based on your language.

 

[BNR32FAN]

One other thing I will add is that from my years of experience driving and riding public transit I can definitely tell the difference when I'm driving a straight line or the road is ascending or descending. And for anyone who's driven on a straight road in hot weather will see similar things to what is shared in that video you posted yet...the road is straight.

If you're a scientist then you should be able to explain it, but it sounds like you're not one based on your language.

Water is self leveling, it doesn’t maintain the shape of a hill. Swells & waves are constantly moving, if the ship was going behind a swell it wouldn’t remain there and would be constantly moving up & down. You know this is true your just intentionally being obtuse. One post you apparently have the mental capacity to discuss the Van Allen Radiation belts then the next you can’t understand the simple concept that water is self leveling? My 9 year old daughter understands this concept and she hasn’t even completed the 4th grade which means this is basic elementary science. You do not really believe that the earth is flat your lying and you know it, and what’s worse is your quoting the scriptures to promote your propaganda.

 

[Lulav]

Lulav said: ↑
And that might be why on the biblical calendar concerning the moedim, the appointed dates with our Creator they only include seven months and those seven months starts when HE says they start; this I believe keeps his calendar in order. He determines this by two things, (two witnesses) and those are the heavens and the earth.

The Heavens because it needs to be a new moon (not a dark moon but the first sliver)
The Earth by the growing of the barley at a certain stage.
Aviv, the first month means 'green ear' and speaks of the barley which is needed for the very first fruits to be ripened.
Just like the Father determines when Yeshua Ha Moschiah returns, he determined when he came the first time.

As I've said before about him being born on the First day of the First month.

Not sure what point you're making with the first seven months of the year sister because the Bible discusses all twelve months of the year with no issue. As for the new moon comment you made I agree that it is correctly defined as the first sliver crescent, and although I don't follow a lunar calendar I will say that if what you say is true then how do you explain Genesis 1:14-19 where it's clear God created the moon full?

I was not saying there aren't a full year of months, ,my point was that to keep things as best in line with the L-RD He decided how to keep yearly time.
Calendars have been messed up and messed with to keep us from being in sync with our Heavenly Father.

There's been days and even months added, lost years, predetermined cyclic calendars, and more.

He arranged the sun and moon and stars and 'planets' (wandering stars) as an elaborate timepiece. However he was also aware of the deception that could take place by man (falsely deceived) to change things.

Even in heaven there is a timepiece as we can see in Job.
But even though the appointed times don't change, when they start is left up to him to decide. Doesn't mean man has followed it.

We must have things in sync on earth as it is in heaven.

That's why it's important to not follow the 'science' which misleads us in keeping on the right schedule with the LORD. That tells me one thing, that it's very important to follow the start point as he ordained it. Once you have that proper date you will be lined up.

The adversary knows how important it is to be in sync with the L-RD's timepiece thus he has been forever trying different things to get us off track.

This part of your post I'm having trouble with:

"I don't follow a lunar calendar I will say that if what you say is true then how do you explain Genesis 1:14-19 where it's clear God created the moon full?"​

How do you get from the work on the 4th day that it was created full? It's not clear to me, please explain. Or what I said was true, what part of what I said.?

 

[Humble Penny]

Water is self leveling, it doesn’t maintain the shape of a hill. Swells & waves are constantly moving, if the ship was going behind a swell it wouldn’t remain there and would be constantly moving up & down. You know this is true your just intentionally being obtuse. One post you apparently have the mental capacity to discuss the Van Allen Radiation belts then the next you can’t understand the simple concept that water is self leveling? My 9 year old daughter understands this concept and she hasn’t even completed the 4th grade which means this is basic elementary science. You do not really believe that the earth is flat your lying and you know it, and what’s worse is your quoting the scriptures to promote your propaganda.

I'm confused by your water leveling argument...are you attempting to argue for or against a globe earth?