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We do not though have a libertine absolute free will nowOur free will is also limited by survival and the laws of nature. It is also limited by love, but we still have free will.
All proof texting isnt evil, that has become an lame excuse for people to reject truth of scripture which doesnt set right with their thinking.If it's relevant to the point and in context. Of course they quoted it, considering the context. Not cherry-picking or proof-texting.
I do try to keep these things in mind when engaging scripture, and if someone points out to me... Hey, you proof texting – don't do that. I'll say, Please show me where and how I am doing so. I'll then engage with the text, see where I am wrong and where I can learn or alternatively say I don't think so because of x, y and z.
We by nature, which is a alienation from God, can never will to do good as to please God Ps 14 3Our free will is limited and restrained by our sin nature, so while can still chose to do things, there are certain things we will never desire to do on our own
From my observation, infants are able by six months to express willfulness...so they probably understand what it is to disobey somewhat earlier than they are able to express it.Romans 3:10, which states, "None is righteous, no, not one." This was not written for babies whose angels see the face of God (Matt 18:10). Nobody reading this verse in Paul’s time would have thought it included babies. Babies don’t yet have free will, which is the ability to do what God doesn’t want them to do. God wants us to do what He wants because we love Him, but we have the choice to do otherwise. We are not righteous, because we resist God’s will and make our will more important. This is the universal unrighteousness of mankind. It is a vanity and a form of idolatry. I have heard people say “I am my own god.” This is what we do when we sin. I might also point out that we don’t know what happens in the resurrection. Do babies look and act like babies or are they mature humans? What happened in between? It is also cruel to imply that some babies go to hell. Nobody in their right mind would tell a grieving parent that their baby might have gone to hell. Maybe they mature someplace and make a choice, but we have no indication of that.
Sure, this is how fringe doctrines start, cherry-picking and taking scripture out of context.All proof texting isnt evil, that has become an lame excuse for people to reject truth of scripture which doesnt set right with their thinking.
Wrong. In that case, all babies would be condemned to hell immediately upon being born. That is complete nonsense. Paul taught that he was not dead in sins until he became aware of what sin was.
Romans 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. 10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. 11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
You do not take all of scripture into consideration to form your doctrine and there is no excuse for that. Cherry picking scripture the way you and all Calvinists do is unacceptable. What Ephesians 2 is actually saying is that everyone who lives long
You missed the qualification clause. . .Right, but how does this support your doctrine? God so loved THE WORLD that He gave His only Son to die for the sins of the whole world (John 3:16, 1 John 2:1-2) so that whoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. In your view, Jesus only died for some and not for all, but that is not what scripture teaches. He sacrificed Himself so that all people would have the opportunity to have everlasting life.
See post #158.Already addressed. That post is meaningless and proves nothing. Is that all you have? Why will you not address my post 157? Because you can't?
Proof texting excuse is a good way to reject what the text of scripture says.. What should a person do when proving something from scripture ? Go find the scripture proof from the newspaper. All scripture is found in a context. So what, every time a person shows a scripture, they need to take the time and do a book study to prove a point ? Thats fantasy and unrealistic. Next time you make a point with scripture be sure you add a full book study so we can know the precise background, history and on and onSure, this is how fringe doctrines start, cherry-picking and taking scripture out of context.
Clearly you have decided this is the way you are going to interpret Scripture.Proof texting excuse is a good way to reject what the text of scripture says.. What should a person do when proving something from scripture ? Go find the scripture proof from the newspaper. All scripture is found in a context. So what, every time a person shows a scripture, they need to take the time and do a book study to prove a point ? Thats fantasy and unrealistic. Next time you make a point with scripture be sure you add a full book study so we can know the precise background, history and on and on
Wrong.You missed the qualification clause. . .
The "whole world" can mean two things:
1) all men without distinction (men from all nations, no nation excluded, but not every man),
2) all men without exception (every man).
In the light of the whole NT ("whoever believes in him"), the first is the actual meaning.
In other words, yes, you are not able to address what I said in post #157. Your post #15 certainly does not address it.See post #158.
See post #190.Wrong.
1 John 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
Well, we can't go by Jewish traditions. It's up to God to determine when each person becomes accountable, wouldn't you agree? Not everyone matures at the same rate and not everyone has the same exact capability of understanding things. But, Paul indicated that he did not become dead in sin until he became aware of sin because of the law (Romans 7:9-11). He obviously didn't indicate how old he was at that time.Greetings Spiritual Jew. Grace and hope to you brother.
As I understand it, the traditional Jewish coming of age for a boy was/is 13 (?). Not sure if this is different for the girl.
Right. When people stand before Christ to give an account of themselves at the judgment, they will only give an account of their own lives, not the lives of their fathers. We are each only responsible for our own actions and beliefs.Although I do believe in a formulation of Original Sin (the grip of the power of sin over creation and mankind). I think in Ezekiel it says something about sons not bearing the guilt of their fathers.
If you find it, let me know. I don't think there is any verse giving an exact age, though.I want to say there is a verse in the OT about the coming of age and sin. But I can't recall it at this moment.
That's what I already responded to. How about you actually respond to what I said instead of just referring to other posts? You clearly have nothing to refute what I'm saying. Your arguments are very weak. You take scriptures out of context and you ignore other scriptures like 2 Peter 2:1 which you did not address in post #190.See post #190.
Nothing to address. . .I am in agreement with 2 Pe 2:1.That's what I already responded to. How about you actually respond to what I said instead of just referring to other posts? You clearly have nothing to refute what I'm saying. Your arguments are very weak. You take scriptures out of context and you ignore other scriptures like 2 Peter 2:1 which you did not address in post #190.
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