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Does it Apply To God To Transform into a Flesh or Any Image ?

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Q Logic said:
Threw Gods Knowledge he Created Mathematics !
1x1= 1
1x2=2
1x3=3
1x4=4 etc.....

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~cburch/pgss97/binary.html

We add binary numbers just like we add decimal numbers, using the technique you learned in grade school. But now we add bits in binary, so 1 + 1 = 10 (the binary representation of 2), and 1 + 1 + 1 = 11 (the binary representation of 3).

Let's look at an example. We want to add 1011 and 111. (Verify that these are decimal 11 and 7.) We begin at the 1's place, and note that 1 + 1 = 10. We place the last bit of 10 in the 1's place of the solution and carry the rest (a 1) to the 2's place.

1
1011
+ 111
------
0

Now we look at the 2's place. We see 1 + 1 + 1 = 11. So we write a 1 in the 2's place of the answer and carry the 1.
1
1011
+ 111
------
10

We examine the 4's place. 1 + 0 + 1 = 10. Write 0 in the 4's place and carry the 1.
1
1011
+ 111
------
010

The 8's place is next. 1 + 1 = 10. 0 goes in the 8's place, and we carry the 1.
1
1011
+ 111
------
0010

Finally, in the 16's place we have only a 1 to put into the answer.
1011
+ 111
------
10010


1 + 1 + 1 = 11 (the binary representation of 3).

For your enjoyment! :cool:
 
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Q Logic said:
ARE YOU LIMITING GOD'S POWER ?

We are NOT, YOU ARE.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT APPLIES AND DOESN'T APPLY TO GOD !

Who are you to know, how do you know? Ever met God?

HUMANS , ANIMALS , PLANTS , CARRY OUT THE ATTRIBUTES OF CHANGE.BECUASE THEY HAVE A BEGINING AND HAVE AN END !

Where is ISA(AS) Jesus of Islam today? Did he come to an end per Quran?
 
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ChrisB said:
I believe you are misinterpreting the Christian position on the Trinity. This is a complex issue so I can understand that. As I have stated Jesus is co-eternal with the Father, as is His Holy Spirit. They are separate personalities untied in one essence - the mind, the word and the thoughts of God, aware of each others existence and united in the Godhead.

If you must use mathematics in your argument the correct way to look at the Christian position on the Trinity is like this - 1x1x1=1

When Muslims start to argue that Christians believe in 3 gods and we explain to them that we do not believe in 3 gods, but one God manifested in three persons, and then they reply again by saying Christians believe in 3 gods, just ignore them. Muslims say the Trinity does not make any sense, but nothing is impossible with God. Then they agree with the virgin birth, and say anything is possible with God. If you believe in the virgin birth, you have no argument against the Trinity.
 
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Q Logic said:
Misinterpreting ?

Threw Gods Knowledge he Created Mathematics !
1x1= 1
1x2=2
1x3=3
1x4=4 etc.....

Why Should I Worship a God , that has Three Seperate Entities.

Why Should I Worship a God , that has Three Seperate Personalities.

Why Should I Worship a God , that has Three Serperate Characters.

God does not = Jesus Does not = The Holy spirit does not = God or Jesus.

Dividing Gods Will , Strength , and Wisdom is Blasphamy.

God is not a man , That he Should lie, Neither the Son of man that he Should

Repent.

Gods Self Being is Eternal , His Essence cannot be Changed or Transformed !

God is 1 not in 3 persons but in 3 essences!

If we are all members and part of the body of Christ as the family of God, will that make us God? certainly not.

God is 1 and is manifested in a threefold manner and not in 3 persons, that would make it 3 Gods. Understand my friend?

I know God as a single being. and I have always known Him as 1, I speak not to 3 individual persons but one supreme being that is manifested in 3 natures and not 3 persons.

The Father who is the Father of all shows and example of how a Father should be to a Son.

The Son shows how we as sons or Children of God should behave and obey to a Father.

And the Holy Ghost is the Guider who guides all into all Truth. In essence the very Soul existence of Father and Son.

A Father is always before the Son and that is why Jesus is referred to as the Son of God. The Father is not greater than the Son. Jesus is the Son because He is sent from the Father as Jesus sends forth The Holy Ghost.

But if The Holy Ghost proceeds from the SON, does that make him lesser?
 
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Praise God for your stand for him and his word.

Islam limits God's power because they do not see Yahweh at all.

I do thank God he is reaching out to Muslims and when 9/11 happened, God told Paul Crouch, the president of TBN that a door was opened to reach the Muslims.

What a God!

I feel that Muhammed invented all his stories because he saw the Jews and Christians in Syria and did not understand what they believed, so started a story that has (like other false religions) reached this far.
According to historians there is not a shred of evidence to prove he had visits from Gabriel (which we know he didn't)
Muhammed's word alone cannot stand in something that serious. Abu Bakyr isn't enough either.

The Bible says.."in the mouth of two or three witnesses, let every word be established." (NT) and Muhammed had no witnesses to his so called desert trips and visions.

The only ones who claim his story as true are other Arabs.

Galatians says that even if an angel came....let him be accursed.
Paul made it clear!
 
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Bushmaster said:
When Muslims start to argue that Christians believe in 3 gods and we explain to them that we do not believe in 3 gods, but one God manifested in three persons, and then they reply again by saying Christians believe in 3 gods, just ignore them.

I think you're right - QLogic ignores my quotations from Scripture illustrating the co-eternal nature of Jesus and His membership and the nature of the trinity. I suspect QLogic's understanding of the trinity is based on Koranic sources which are not true reflections of the Christian position on the trinity. For example I understand that muslims believe Christians see the trinity as consisting of God, Jesus and Mary which is not the Christian position.
 
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Bushmaster said:
We are NOT, YOU ARE.



Who are you to know, how do you know? Ever met God?



Where is ISA(AS) Jesus of Islam today? Did he come to an end per Quran?

I am not Limiting God , by Saying he Cannot Create a Another God .

Becuase , it Doesn't Apply to God , To Create A Another !

Explanation:

The Second God , is The Creation of the First God .

So, there Couldn't be a Another God ! , Other then GOD !

So , it doesn't apply to God to Create A Another God !

So i am Not Limiting The Almighty God !
 
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Bushmaster said:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~cburch/pgss97/binary.html

1 + 1 + 1 = 11 (the binary representation of 3).

For your enjoyment! :cool:
You Christians Are so Funny,Not just u Add, Subtract , Divide and Multiply
God, You also Apply Decimels to Him , like He's a Mathematical Problem.
1+ GOD + 1 JESUS + 1 HOLYGHOST= 11 ? ( binary representation of 3 )
Your Right Mathematicly ," They '' Present The Value of 3 ,As in 3 Seperate Persons , 3 Seperate Characters, 3 Seperate Personalities.
Equals to 3 Seperate Beings.
If you Calculate it Mathicmaticaly as u claim it to Be.
GOD is GOD, JESUS is JESUS, HOLYGHOST is the HOLYGHOST.
Person + Person + Person = Three Persons.
If u Claim These Three Persons All in One Body ? Sounds like , A Multiple Personality Disorder :D
Let's re do the Math.
GOD is all Powerfull = 1 , Jesus is Not all Powerfull = 0 HOLYGHOST is Not all Powerfull = 0
Answer: 1+0+0 = 1 Winner is GOD like i Expected. whhwoooo. ! :clap:
GOD is all Knowing = 1 , Jesus is Not All Knowing = 0 HOLYGHOST is Not all Knowing = 0
Answer: 1 + 0 + 0 = 1 Winner is God like i Expected .whhwooo. ! :clap:
These are Some Examples to my Mathematical Problem
Total Mathematical Conclusion: I'm Sorry , but they do not Equal Each other !
One GOD , Zero Partners.
 
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ilwjc said:
Praise God for your stand for him and his word.

Islam limits God's power because they do not see Yahweh at all.

I do thank God he is reaching out to Muslims and when 9/11 happened, God told Paul Crouch, the president of TBN that a door was opened to reach the Muslims.

What a God!

I feel that Muhammed invented all his stories because he saw the Jews and Christians in Syria and did not understand what they believed, so started a story that has (like other false religions) reached this far.
According to historians there is not a shred of evidence to prove he had visits from Gabriel (which we know he didn't)
Muhammed's word alone cannot stand in something that serious. Abu Bakyr isn't enough either.

The Bible says.."in the mouth of two or three witnesses, let every word be established." (NT) and Muhammed had no witnesses to his so called desert trips and visions.

The only ones who claim his story as true are other Arabs.

Galatians says that even if an angel came....let him be accursed.
Paul made it clear!

First of all ! you Don't know what your Talkin About !

You Don't know Anything about My Faith !


When i say God cannot Create a Another God , Becuase it Doesn't apply

To GOD !!! Becuase the Second God is the Creation of the First God !


So there Could be no Other But GOD !


GOD = CREATOR , SECOND GOD = CREATION

SO AM I LIMITNG GOD , BECUASE IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE OF GOD CREATING

A ANOTHER GOD ? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! :mad:

MY POSTS IS NOT FOR YOU ! TO CHOOSE AND PICK A TOPIC ACCORDING

TO YOUR REDICIOULIS FACTS AND FIGURES ! YOU WANT TO START A TOPIC !


GO START YOUR OWN TOPIC ! YOU WANNA HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT

HOW YOU FEEL ! GO TO A CHRISTIANS OR TO A MUSLIMS CHAT ROOM ! :wave:
 
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Q Logic said:
You Christians Are so Funny,Not just u Add, Subtract , Divide and Multiply
God, You also Apply Decimels to Him , like He's a Mathematical Problem.

Actually I believe you started this in post #20 .....

I find it strange that you admit that the Christian trinity consists of God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit when the Koran 5:116 says

And when Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! did you say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah he will say: Glory be to Thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it; Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in Thy mind, surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen things.

So who is in error in their understanding, you or the Koran?
 
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God is 1 not in 3 persons but in 3 essences!

If we are all members and part of the body of Christ as the family of God, will that make us God? certainly not.

God is 1 and is manifested in a threefold manner and not in 3 persons, that would make it 3 Gods. Understand my friend?

I know God as a single being. and I have always known Him as 1, I speak not to 3 individual persons but one supreme being that is manifested in 3 natures and not 3 persons.

The Father who is the Father of all shows and example of how a Father should be to a Son.

The Son shows how we as sons or Children of God should behave and obey to a Father.

And the Holy Ghost is the Guider who guides all into all Truth. In essence the very Soul existence of Father and Son.

A Father is always before the Son and that is why Jesus is referred to as the Son of God. The Father is not greater than the Son. Jesus is the Son because He is sent from the Father as Jesus sends forth The Holy Ghost.

But if The Holy Ghost proceeds from the SON, does that make him lesser?

Hi Chris :)

Even The People Before you , That Go Back 100's of Years Cannot


Explain Trinity . Becuase it Doesn't Make Sense !

I'm Sure You Spent Time on it , Trying To use the Right Words , Assuming

your Tryin To make Sense To it .

By the Way Chris !

Jesus Said : THE FATHER IS GREATER THEN I John 14 :28 :o
 
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Actually you've addressed post #31 to me but it's Bushmaster's arguments you are quoting and responding to. :)

In this case I'll just respond to the final part of your post. John 14:28 does not deny Jesus divinity - it can be interpreted in a number of ways all of which are consistent with the trinity; but the one I find most compelling is the description of Jesus relationship with the father - it is of course (in human terms) a Father/Son relationship - that relationship does not make Him inferior to the Father as shown in the following passage

Philippians 2

5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.


Perhaps you could answer the question I posed at the end of post #30
 
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ChrisB said:
Actually I believe you started this in post #20 .....

I find it strange that you admit that the Christian trinity consists of God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit when the Koran 5:116 says

And when Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! did you say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah he will say: Glory be to Thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it; Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in Thy mind, surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen things.

So who is in error in their understanding, you or the Koran?

Chris

Go Back and Read Post # 20

I never admitted to Trinity !

I do Not Worship a God That Is Consisted with 2 Partners.

it's why Should i ! it was Stated out of Sarcasim !!! :D

2. Can't You Read The English Translation Correctly ?

It is God Telling Jesus son of Mary ! did you Tell Your Followers To Worship 2

Gods Besides me ( Trinity ) Thats what u Believe in !( this would be taking place in the Day of Judgment ! )

Jesus Denies it to God and Says ! You Would of known if i would of said it !

You know whats in my Mind and i dont know whats in yours Surley !

You are the Great Knower of all un SEEN Things .!


IT IS JESUS CLAIMING HIS INNOCENCE TO GOD IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT

THAT HE DENIES TRINITY TO GOD !

IT'S SO CLEAR ! WHAT'S YOUR POINT ???
 
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Q Logic said:
Chris

Go Back and Read Post # 20

I never admitted to Trinity !

You don't agree with it but you are misinterpreting the Christian position on the trinity.

Q Logic said:
2. Can't You Read The English Translation Correctly ?

It is God Telling Jesus son of Mary ! did you Tell Your Followers To Worship 2

Gods Besides me ( Trinity ) Thats what u Believe in !( this would be taking place in the Day of Judgment ! )

Jesus Denies it to God and Says ! You Would of known if i would of said it !

You know whats in my Mind and i dont know whats in yours Surley !

You are the Great Knower of all un SEEN Things .!


IT IS JESUS CLAIMING HIS INNOCENCE TO GOD IN THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT

THAT HE DENIES TRINITY TO GOD !

IT'S SO CLEAR ! WHAT'S YOUR POINT ???

I certainly can read it correctly! The Christian trinity consists of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, which you recognise is the Christian position. However the Koran refers to God, Jesus and Mary as being the Christian trinity. Why else would God accuse Jesus of this? Why does he not refer to the Holy Spirit?

Clearly the Koran is incorrect in it's understanding of the trinity.
 
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Q Logic said:
You are right God has No Beginining and No end like i stated !

There are things that doesn't Apply to god .


1. It doesn't apply to God To Create A another God .


2. It doesn't Apply to God To Eat and Sleep , work and have Sex.

3. it doesn't apply to god to transform or change his self being.

He is Eternal he never Begun !

If God would Transform ! then God would have started out with some kind of

Image or design ! then God would have had a Begining.

any thing that has a Begining and has a end ! can change or Transform.

They would be a Creation and not a Creator !
If at all 1 contains the only logic in your post. The rest is a sad attempt to deny Jesus as one with God. You couldn't possibly know. Stop prettending to know because of some words written on leaves, bones, and whatever scraps they wrote on. God is without beginning, without end and without limit.

Just, just... stop. You're trying too hard.
 
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ChrisB said:
You don't agree with it but you are misinterpreting the Christian position on the trinity.



I certainly can read it correctly! The Christian trinity consists of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, which you recognise is the Christian position. However the Koran refers to God, Jesus and Mary as being the Christian trinity. Why else would God accuse Jesus of this? Why does he not refer to the Holy Spirit?

Clearly the Koran is incorrect in it's understanding of the trinity.

CHRIS , I love it when u christians Try to Translate the Way u want to Translate the Quran. :D

The Quran Shows and Prophecies How Mis Guided People like yourself

Took God and Added Partners That he Didn't need.!

Of Course Trinity appeared After the Ministry Of Jesus !

Then Came The Last Revelations From God Which is The Quran !

Of Course You Don't Believe in the Quran Or The Last Prophet and Messanger

Of God Which is Muhamad ( May Peace be on him ).

Same Way I do Not Recognize The Bible As the Word of God , But The Word

of Man. The Quran , Mentions And Denies Trinity of the People Who Applied

Trinity To GOD ! AND GOD DAMS THEM ALL WHO SAYS THAT GOD IS 3 OF 3

AND THEY HAVE COMMITTED BLASPHAMY ! it's in the Verse of mary in the Quran.

So , Jesus Will Appear in the Day of JudgeMent Before God , And infront of All

Who Took God as 3 Gods, And he will ask Jesus , Did you Tell These People

to Take me as 3 Gods , And Jesus Will say , I did not Say such Words

You know what is in My Mind and i dont know whats in yours Surley.

You are the Seeing of all unseen Things.

YOU CHRISTIANS READ WHAT YOU WANNA HEAR ! AND LEAVE THE REST

LIKE IT DOESNT EXSIST , JUST LIKE WHAT U DO TO THE BIBLE.

CHRIS DID YOU READ POST 28 ?
 
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