Does it Apply To God To Transform into a Flesh or Any Image ?

[Kas]

YOU CHRISTIANS ! READ WHAT YOU WANNA HEAR ! AND LEAVE THE REST

LIKE IT DOESN'T EXSIST !!!

Brother are you trying to suggest that this is not what you are doing!

Peace,
kas.

 

[Kas]

Q-logic.

You seem intent on attacking beliefs that we Christians don't have! We do not believe that GOD has need of partners, nor do we believe that their is more than one GOD! However, it seems to make you feel more secure in your own beliefs, to attack a myth of someone else's, it saddends me, but I can not see how one can help someone who is not open to listen to genuine correction.

Peace, Kas.

Don't feed the trolls!

 

[stillsmallvoice]

Hi ChrisB!

Our Sages offer several explanations. One is the so-called Majesticatus Pluralis, i.e. the "royal we."

Our Sages also teach that by saying "Let us..." God was speaking to/consulting the angelic host (see I Kings 22:20-23, Isaiah 6:8, note the use of "us", Job 1:6-12 and Amos 3:7). God certainly does not need the angels' help or advice but he speaks to them out of courtesy and modesty. (Our Sages deduce from this that a great person should always act humbly towards, and consult, those lower than him/her.) One of our Sages says that God thus "consulted" the angels at this stage because they were jealous of man, that man and not they would be the pinnacle of creation.

These same Sages offer another explanation. They note that in 1:11, God said, "Let the earth put forth grass..." and in 1:24, He said "Let the earth bring forth the living creature..." Thus, in 1:26, our Sages suggest that God was speaking to the earth when He said, "Let us make man..." In effect, He said to the earth: Let us be partners in making man. I will provide the soul and you will provide the body. When the man dies, we will each reclaim our respective parts. (See Ecclesiastes 12:7, "And the dust returneth to the earth as it was, and the spirit returneth unto G-d who gave it.") (Note: Our Sages are offering a homily, a parable here, the value of which is in the idea that it teaches; it is not meant to be taken literally.)

Howzat?

Be well!

ssv

 

[Kas]

Bah! Go read surah Ta'ha... God can be/speak thru a burning bush but can not be/speak thru a man...

hey, Bush master, did we ever get an answer to this question?

Peace,
kas.

 

[final testament]

So says islamic tavhid... Non-sense. You can not understand God (Trinity) using islamic tavhid. You can not interpret Christian data according to the rules of islam ...

i didnt say anything about tavhid. I was using simple logic. If I cannot interpret it with logic then it is not logical.

If you say that you belive in one God then no problem for me. It makes me happier.
So what is the discussion between trinitarians and unitarians? It looks like christians still couldnt decide what kind of god you belive.

On the hand Muhammad clearly adapted most pre-islamic traditions into islam, since he was a traveler and a merchant he knew all about 'em. ...

You say either islam is taken from christians and jews or it is pre-islamic traditions. you still couldnt decide what kind of lie it should be. There is nothing left from preislamic life. they are all destroyed. Show me what is writen in Kuran about preislamic gods.
Islam brings alot of things which is not known by christians or jews, for example, tevhid: the oneness of God and His 99 names in Kuran and more They are not so easy concepts that can be built by a travellar.

Furthermore, Statues and images are neither worshipped or venerated in churches. They are placed in churches for a) Teaching purposes, and b) as reminders of the members of God's kingdom. People may pray before these images, just as people pray before a cross or a pulpit, or a muslim preaching platform, this does not mean they are worshipping the statue, cross, pulpit, or preaching platform. Similarly along with images of Jesus and Mary, Catholic and Orthodox churches contain images of other Christian Saints, like St Francis, St john the Baptist, St Anne, and St Joseph. None of these form part of the God (Trinity).

This is what exactly pagans say! In hinduism people belive in a universal sprit called Brahma, and all the idols are reflections of Brahma so they claim that they are not pagans. additionally pre islamic pagans used to say the same thing (as it is written in Kuran). The used to say "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allâh." 39:3
muslim preaching platform? what is that? we dont prey to any platform! If you are talking bout Kabe in Mecca, there is nothing inside there, it is empty. It is chosen as a direction because, for unified muslims, muslims need a direction. That is all.

Those naked pictures and statues can make people horny but not religious.

 

[Kas]

just a quick reply, again you show your ignorance of the subject!

Unitarians are not Christians! The debate with them is of the same nature as we have with Mormons, Joe Joes (Jws), Moslems or Hindus.

Their is plenty taken pre-islamic paganism found in Modern Islam. The Hajj, the term Allah, The Kaba and its notions as a sanctuary, the stoning of the pillar meant to represent Iblis.

Christians do not worship any created or fassioned thing, we worship GOD. This goes back to you not listening again! If we worship statues, thenm you worship the Kaba! If you don't worship the Kaba, then we do not worship statues! Be consistant in your bar of judgement.

Finally, the Kaba is a shrine built around (or upon) a meteorite! It is far from being empty!

Peace,
kas.

 

[final testament]

just a quick reply, .............

This is what writen in the dictionary wordweb. Unitarianism :Christian doctrine that stresses individual freedom of belief and rejects the Trinity.
You are used to call people not believing like you as unbelievers.
Kaba is the square building there is nothing sacred inside, a table and lamps.
and there is no meteoride. Cristians use the same word "Allah" in arabic bibles, it means God in english. When muslims prey they dont put anything in front of them, they dont even let any person pass in front while praying. Hajj is not from pagans . All the messengers told hajj. pagans just corrupted that idea and put idols.
while you worship you put objects between you and God. That's pagan
when you enter a mosque, you dont see any pictures of anyone. Just verses from Kuran on the wall and books.
peace

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Q Logic has a point there. God begetting a human-form son, God becoming flesh and dwelling among us—that’s pagan mythology, not pure monotheism.

LLOJ subscribes.......
Greetings. Didn't YHWH create the "adam" in Genesis from dust?

I found a verse in the Hebrew OT/OC concerning a 'New-thing' in the land and not really sure what to make of it.

But since I believe Jesus is the one prophecied to come to the Jews/Israelites, I also believe [like the Muslims], a woman can conceive a Prophet/Savior thru a "virgin". Thoughts?

Isaiah 43:19 Behold Me! doing a New-thing/02319 chadash now she is sprouting not ye are knowing it/her? Indeed placing in a wilderness a Way, in desolation Rivers.

Jeremiah 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for YHWH" hath created a New thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.

John 14:6 Is saying to him the Jesus "I AM the Way and the Truth and the Life. No-one is coming toward the Father except thru Me"