Does it Apply To God To Transform into a Flesh or Any Image ?

[Q Logic]

God has no Beginning and no end !

Transformation and change only applies to the Attributes of the Creation

And not the Creator !

it is not common sense For God to Transform !

God never begun ! so how can you say he can transform since he is

Eternal !

 

[ChrisB]

You cannot put limits on the Creator. He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. If it were not so He would not be God.

 

[I am Sam]

Om Tat Sat

 

[Q Logic]

You are right God has No Beginining and No end like i stated !

There are things that doesn't Apply to god .


1. It doesn't apply to God To Create A another God .


2. It doesn't Apply to God To Eat and Sleep , work and have Sex.

3. it doesn't apply to god to transform or change his self being.

He is Eternal he never Begun !

If God would Transform ! then God would have started out with some kind of

Image or design ! then God would have had a Begining.

any thing that has a Begining and has a end ! can change or Transform.

They would be a Creation and not a Creator !

 

[Q Logic]

what ever u Imagine in your Mind , God is Differ then what u have Imagined.

 

[ChrisB]

The fact remains - as soon as you attempt to put a limit on God's power you are denying His divinity - either He is all-powerful or He is not God.

 

[Kas]

God has no Beginning and no end !

Transformation and change only applies to the Attributes of the Creation

And not the Creator !

it is not common sense For God to Transform !

God never begun ! so how can you say he can transform since he is

Eternal !

The logic here does not follow, Q logic, GOD being what He is can become flesh should he so wish! We do not place limmits on GOD and believe that whatever GOD does is becoming of His divinity. GOD is eternal, and His incarnation does not affect upon that.

In Him,
Kas.

 

[Kas]

what ever u Imagine in your Mind , God is Differ then what u have Imagined.

A christian Scholar called Thomas Aquinas said this a very long time ago! It has special reference to our language of GOD, as all language fails to grasp comprhensively His most devine majesty! by our analogy we can only hope to gain an infenticimaly small understanding of the devine nature. Tell me though as a Moslem, is Allah one, like one pencil or is it a different kind of one, I mean as a moslem, do you believe that your understanding of one, you imagining of how 'one' should be, is gonna be like GOD actually is!?

Peace,
kas.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Bah! Go read surah Ta'ha... God can be/speak thru a burning bush but can not be/speak thru a man...

 

[Kas]

Christians don't believe that, so what is your point? Tell me was the Quran created?

Christians do not believe that GOD had sex, this is blasphemy to Christians! We believ that at His incarnation GOD took on himself human nature and chose out of his love to endure a human life. What greater love has our GOD shown but that he should become one of us! I have seen no parallel in Islam that can comapare.

Tell mne do you believe in the Quran when it talks of GODs hands and other bodily descriptions?

Also, GODs devine actions are his chosen form of communication, he does not cut 1/6 of humanity out of the picture by revealing a book (however, corrupted) in one language that can only be read and understood by Arabs. (I have nothing against arabs by the way.) This, is unbecomming of a religion that is supposed to be for all mankind.

Peace,
Kas.


In the begininng was the word and the word was with GOD and the word was GOD...and the word became flesh and dwelt amongst us.

 

[Kas]

Bah! Go read surah Ta'ha... God can be/speak thru a burning bush but can not be/speak thru a man...

Wicked, I wopuld like to press home the point, tell me Q-Logic, is this what you believe that GOD spoke in a bush! if so, could he not then become a man should he so wish!

Bless you Bushmaster!

Peace,
Kas.

 

[Q Logic]

Do i Limit God when i say it Doesn't apply To him To Create A another God ?

My question , To you ! for every one that Replied and the will Reply !

Does It apply to God to Create a Another God ???

If The answer is No !

ARE YOU LIMITING GOD'S POWER ?

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT APPLIES AND DOESN'T APPLY TO GOD !

HUMANS , ANIMALS , PLANTS , CARRY OUT THE ATTRIBUTES OF CHANGE.

BECUASE THEY HAVE A BEGINING AND HAVE AN END !

GOD DOES NOT HAVE THAT ATTRIBUTE ! BECUASE HE NEVER BEGUN.!

IF IT APPLIES TO GODS POWER TO CHANGE THEN GOD WOULD HAVE STARTED

OUT WITH AN IMAGE OR A DESIGN AND HAVE A WEAK ATTRIBUTE !

THEN GOD WOULD HAD TO HAVE A BEGINING AND OBVIOUSLY AN END !

GODS ESSENCE OF HIS SELF BEING DOES NOT CHANGE !

SO, HOW DO U WORSHIP A GOD THATS ETERNAL ! BUT YET , YOU BELIEVE

HIS SELF BEING CHANGES ! THE WAY YOUR SELF BEING CHANGES AS

A CREATION OF GOD !

 

[Papist]

A christian Scholar called Thomas Aquinas said this a very long time ago! It has special reference to our language of GOD, as all language fails to grasp comprhensively His most devine majesty! by our analogy we can only hope to gain an infenticimaly small understanding of the devine nature. Tell me though as a Moslem, is Allah one, like one pencil or is it a different kind of one, I mean as a moslem, do you believe that your understanding of one, you imagining of how 'one' should be, is gonna be like GOD actually is!?

Peace,
kas.

Good post, Kas!

 

[ChrisB]

My question , To you ! for every one that Replied and the will Reply !

Does It apply to God to Create a Another God ???

God did not "make" Jesus

John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Jesus was co-eternal with the Father - not only the above passage but also Genesis tells us that

Genesis 1
26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Also the NT

Hebrews 13
8Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

 

[Q Logic]

The logic here does not follow, Q logic, GOD being what He is can become flesh should he so wish! We do not place limmits on GOD and believe that whatever GOD does is becoming of His divinity. GOD is eternal, and His incarnation does not affect upon that.

In Him,
Kas.

DO I LIMIT GODS POWER BY SAYING HE CANNOT CREATE ANOTHER GOD ?

CAN GOD CREATE A ANOTHER GOD AS HE WISHES ?


IF THE ANSWER IS YES ?

PLEASE DO EXPLAIN THE POSSIBILITY !

 

[Q Logic]

A christian Scholar called Thomas Aquinas said this a very long time ago! It has special reference to our language of GOD, as all language fails to grasp comprhensively His most devine majesty! by our analogy we can only hope to gain an infenticimaly small understanding of the devine nature. Tell me though as a Moslem, is Allah one, like one pencil or is it a different kind of one, I mean as a moslem, do you believe that your understanding of one, you imagining of how 'one' should be, is gonna be like GOD actually is!?

Peace,
kas.

A Muslim Scholar Called Ahmad abin Hambal Said this a very long time ago !
It has a special reference to our langauge of GOD.

GOD IS ONE , NOT BY THE NUMBERS , BUT BY HE HAS NO EQUAL PARTNERS.

ONE can be added it could be 2 or 3 or more !

ONE can be Subtracted it could be zero !

ONE can be Divided it could be Half !

ONE can be Multiplied it could be any number u can multiply with !

YOU have Divided and Subtracted and Added To GOD !

YOUR Understanding of ONE , is in Mathematical Terms , It is Diffrent

From our Understanding of ONE.

THERE WE'RE NOTHING BEFORE GOD, AND THERE IS NOTHING AFTER GOD !

 

[ChrisB]

I believe you are misinterpreting the Christian position on the Trinity. This is a complex issue so I can understand that. As I have stated Jesus is co-eternal with the Father, as is His Holy Spirit. They are separate personalities untied in one essence - the mind, the word and the thoughts of God, aware of each others existence and united in the Godhead.

If you must use mathematics in your argument the correct way to look at the Christian position on the Trinity is like this - 1x1x1=1

 

[Heathen Dawn]

Q Logic has a point there. God begetting a human-form son, God becoming flesh and dwelling among us—that’s pagan mythology, not pure monotheism.

 

[ChrisB]

Q Logic has a point there. God begetting a human-form son, God becoming flesh and dwelling among us—that’s pagan mythology, not pure monotheism.

As I've said before Jesus is co-eternal with the Father. The description of Jesus as His only-begotten Son describes the relationship they have in terms we can understand.

 

[Q Logic]

I believe you are misinterpreting the Christian position on the Trinity. This is a complex issue so I can understand that. As I have stated Jesus is co-eternal with the Father, as is His Holy Spirit. They are separate personalities untied in one essence - the mind, the word and the thoughts of God, aware of each others existence and united in the Godhead.

If you must use mathematics in your argument the correct way to look at the Christian position on the Trinity is like this - 1x1x1=1

Misinterpreting ?

Threw Gods Knowledge he Created Mathematics !
1x1= 1
1x2=2
1x3=3
1x4=4 etc.....

Why Should I Worship a God , that has Three Seperate Entities.

Why Should I Worship a God , that has Three Seperate Personalities.

Why Should I Worship a God , that has Three Serperate Characters.

God does not = Jesus Does not = The Holy spirit does not = God or Jesus.

Dividing Gods Will , Strength , and Wisdom is Blasphamy.

God is not a man , That he Should lie, Neither the Son of man that he Should

Repent.

Gods Self Being is Eternal , His Essence cannot be Changed or Transformed !