Kira Light
Shinigami love apples
Is temporary hellfire not something to fear? If it is, there is absolutely a motive to follow God based in fear.
Upvote
0
-
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
Does Hebrews 3 and 4 do away with Sabbath?
- Thread starter k4c
- Start date
Is temporary hellfire not something to fear? If it is, there is absolutely a motive to follow God based in fear.
Fear or reverence?
rev·er·ence
1. A feeling of profound awe and respect and often love; veneration.
2. An act showing respect, especially a bow or curtsy.
3. The state of being revered, to consider or treat with profound awe and respect; venerate.
Upvote
0
ricker
Regular Member
I read the word fear, which can mean awe or reverence I guess. I think many are first brought to God by fear of death, etc. I'm not sure that is the worst thing in the world as long as it leads to the acceptance of Christ in our lives, and the growth in our relationship with Him will lead to love.
Upvote
0
Wrong...
Jesus nor His disciples stayed home on the Sabbath. You are trying to twist the truth to place a burden on the Sabbath that was not the intent of the verse you quoted. They were told to stay home in response to their disobedince when they went out looking for bread after being told not to. It wasn't a command given to be used as a standard for Sabbath keeping.
Upvote
0
Amen...
When we grow in the understanding of God's love and His longing desire to give us the kingdom fear of God will begin to fade away and be replaced with love, peace and a deep reverence.
Luke 12:32 "So don't be afraid, little flock. For it gives your Father great happiness to give you the Kingdom."
Upvote
0
Fear will only go so far but love will go the distance.
People will do wrong if they believe they won't get caught but love will constrain us even when we know we won't be caught.
2 Corinthians 5:14-15 For the love of Christ constrains us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died; and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again.
Upvote
0
The command was to stay home, its biblical... but now you are saying that its not to be used as a standard for sabbathkeeping... and I suppose the command to kill the sabbathbreakers is also not to be used as a standard... interesting, so in essence you are picking and choosing which sabbathkeeping verses you will comply with?
Upvote
0
It's bad enough you reject the inspired word and cast it to the gound now you're calling Jesus a sinner...
What next?
Upvote
0
Avonia
Just look through the telescope . . .
This may be true for you, but it's not true for me. Whether I believe there is a god or not, a heaven or not, has nothing to do with how I behave. I care about my relationship to the whole because I recognize that I am part of the whole.
This is the exquisite insight Senti has been tirelessly sharing all this time. And why he cares so much about understanding the virus that's gotten into the system to cause some of us to forget our relationships.
I would not steal your toys. Although it sounds like I might have to keep mine away from you.
Upvote
0
Nope, I am asking you why you are rejecting sabbath directives that ARE biblical... I haven't called Jesus anything, so don't evade the question, answer it....
Upvote
0
This may be true for you, but it's not true for me. Whether I believe there is a god or not, a heaven or not, has nothing to do with how I behave. I care about my relationship to the whole because I recognize that I am part of the whole.
This is the exquisite insight Senti has been tirelessly sharing all this time. And why he cares so much about understanding the virus that's gotten into the system to cause some of us to forget our relationships.
I would not steal your toys. Although it sounds like I might have to keep mine away from you.
I just recently retired after 30 years in law enforcement. I started working in a maximum security prison in 1980 as a prison guard and then transfered to the police deapartment as a patrol officer but in the last 12 years I was assigned to the adult major crimes division as the senior detective until I retired 3 years ago. Now I work as a live in staff in a group home for boys 12 to 17 years old. Fear will only keep people as long as they believe they will get caught. The problem is, most people don't believe they will get caught.
Upvote
0
Avonia
Just look through the telescope . . .
Punishment can be effective, but it is at the bottom of the spectrum of discipline. A last resort. Until there is an acute failure in relationship, punishing a child is not necessary. Even when a child does hurtful, risky things. But that requires enough awareness on the part of the parent - and child - to be in relationship through good discipline. And the learning that follows. It's much easier to punish than to discipline. That's part of why we love heaven/hell theology so much. It's supports our laziness.
(Stormy, I recognize that in your field you regularly are dealing with conditions that make this immensely more challenging.)
As parents, most of us fall short - but to greatly varying degrees. Our intention should be falling less short.
Upvote
0
Similar threads
