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No no, he was asking for scientific inconsistencies with the Bible, not inconsistencies in the Bible

Then of course he's not actually interested in learning about them at all, he's made that clear

I know the contradictions are there. They do not matter to me, because I know I am alive in Christ and Him in me. You want to discredit the bible, but I know the word of God is alive. Here is the reason why you cannot hear Him:

Isaiah 6:9-10

9. And He said, "Go, and tell this people: Keep on hearing, but do not understand;Keep on seeing, but do not perceive."
10. Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed."

Go ahead, just try asking Him to open your ears and your eyes, to open your understanding, and you may be able to understand and to perceive what the Spirit is saying to His church.

Revelation 2:29

"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

Even people in churches are dull of hearing and cannot see.

Luke 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.
 
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No true Scotsman. I'm guessing you know you're right. I'm guessing those who don't see you as a true Christian also 'know' they're correct.

Oh yea... By the by, you haven't shown your 'proof' of a man coming back from the dead. You made a big deal about this 'proof' and you haven't shown it.

I was dead in sin, and am made alive in Christ. This is resurrection. I already told you that He quickens by His Spirit. I do not care for all the arguments. You believe what you want. My testimony may not be accepted by you, though I am here with you. Many did not accept Jesus testimony, and He was with them. He said blessed are those who have not seen me, yet believe.
 
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I was dead in sin, and am made alive in Christ. This is resurrection. I already told you that He quickens by His Spirit. I do not care for all the arguments. You believe what you want. My testimony may not be accepted by you, though I am here with you. Many did not accept Jesus testimony, and He was with them. He said blessed are those who have not seen me, yet believe.
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I know the contradictions are there. They do not matter to me, because I know I am alive in Christ and Him in me. You want to discredit the bible, but I know the word of God is alive. Here is the reason why you cannot hear Him:

Isaiah 6:9-10

9. And He said, "Go, and tell this people: Keep on hearing, but do not understand;Keep on seeing, but do not perceive."
10. Make the heart of this people dull, And their ears heavy, And shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And return and be healed."

Go ahead, just try asking Him to open your ears and your eyes, to open your understanding, and you may be able to understand and to perceive what the Spirit is saying to His church.

Revelation 2:29

"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

Even people in churches are dull of hearing and cannot see.

Luke 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

How little you know about me. Here's a big difference between you and me:
You deliberately wanted to change from whatever belief system you had to Christianity. I was a Christian and DID NOT want to lose faith. I was in denial of my losing faith for years, during which the knowledge that I possessed and the faith I wanted were at terrible odds. I became depressed and felt terribly lost. I would cry myself to sleep praying and begging for something that would reignite my faith. This went on for the better part of my teen years. Eventually, I had to accept I didn't believe, despite all my wishes to love God. I went from calling myself an agnostic to, after some more years of thinking and learning, calling myself an atheist.

So, don't preach to me about opening my heart and blah blah blah. Unlike you, I didn't change or lose my faith willingly. I literally became an atheist against my will. Not only that, but I do wish I could believe that I will see my dead relatives in paradise one day. I wish I could believe that evil deeds are always punished. I do wish I could believe all that but I don't, not because I don't want to (I do,). but because I can't.
 
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It doesn't sound like kenblaster5000 resurrected any dead. Maybe I misread something, though.

I just told my aunt to rise up and walk, and she has. Yes, the Holy Spirit is working on her also You can be uncrippled, but crippled with fear, but when I tell a spirit of fear to "Go, in Jesus name," it goes, if I say it with the authority that Jesus Christ gives me.
I have seen a mischievous spirit at work that was manifesting and pressing buttons in the kitchen, going by and touching people as it floated past, go in the name of Jesus Christ, and pleading His blood over the business. I have seen and heard some pretty cool stuff. I would not trade this life for anything.
 
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I was dead in sin, and am made alive in Christ. This is resurrection. I already told you that He quickens by His Spirit. I do not care for all the arguments. You believe what you want. My testimony may not be accepted by you, though I am here with you. Many did not accept Jesus testimony, and He was with them. He said blessed are those who have not seen me, yet believe.

I guess if we're going to redefine terms, such as 'dead,' I brought back my wife from the dead. She was dead in hunger, the other day, and I ordered some of Domino's new pizza to try it out. She was quickened by the powerful herbs, cheeses, and sauces imbued upon the bread. My testimony may not be accepted by you, thought she is here with us.
 
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So people make "moral" decisions out of fear of punishment from those higher powers?
Morality is, therefore, another term for cowardice.

Nobody mentioned fear.....though Gaga does scare me a bit.
 
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It takes about six seconds to type 'contradictions in the Bible,' whether your atheists or theist. You can do this if you truly are willing to be honest with yourself. If, however, you've made up your mind without having reliable information and disregarding what you know to be problems in your belief system, then you're not in an honest quest for knowledge and discovery. In other words, if you don't care about contradictions in the Bible, what you're saying is that you don't care about believing what is consistent or true.

The "contradictions" are simply differences in point of view presented in different places in the text. When put back in context, they ADD value to the point being made.
 
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The "contradictions" are simply differences in point of view presented in different places in the text. When put back in context, they ADD value to the point being made.

So Jesus predicting that he will return before his disciples (and I mean the literal 12 disciples) are dead adds to the value of a point?
 
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There are indeed fossils of aquatic animals in many mountains. In fact, where I lived in Mexico, a desert, was full of sea shells and other aquatic remnants. However, the key thing to determine if a global flood did occur is that
I think you dropped your keys.
all those fossils would have had to have been from the same time.
Oh? Why wouldn't some be before and others after? Or a mixture of the three?

Those fossils, however, tell a much more colorful and ancient story.

Actually, rock doesn't say much of anything.
Rock layers are given dates based on the Fossils found in them.

And the fossils are dated based on what layer they are found in.
Pretty circular. Not much in the way of facts.

If you want to read a nice N easy report on dating layers, read the Greenland Ice Core Project - Final Report
It covers the dating problems with ice core samples. I Know it's not rock dating, but it's way easier to read, more relevant, and gives a lot of insight into the process of recreating history.
 
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I think you dropped your keys.

Oh? Why wouldn't some be before and others after? Or a mixture of the three?

Actually, rock doesn't say much of anything.
Rock layers are given dates based on the Fossils found in them.

And the fossils are dated based on what layer they are found in.
Pretty circular. Not much in the way of facts.

If you want to read a nice N easy report on dating layers, read the Greenland Ice Core Project - Final Report
It covers the dating problems with ice core samples. I Know it's not rock dating, but it's way easier to read, more relevant, and gives a lot of insight into the process of recreating history.

You're wrong.
 
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Again, no, there is a difference. Kenblaster teaches his children to believe things that have zero sound evidence supporting them. I would not do that.
Your unsupported and unverified personal opinion has been noted.
No, I’m not talking about scientifically unverifiable philosophical assumptions. I’m talking about unwarranted religious beliefs of the kind I just described. I hold no religious beliefs.
Sorry but you hold to unwarranted unverifiable philosophical assumptions just like everybody else.
No, that is a lack of belief.

Do you believe nothing? Again, you hold to unverifiable philosophical assumptions, to deny it is cognitive dissonance on a par with what creationists display.
 
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Your unsupported and unverified personal opinion has been noted.
It isn’t unsupported or unverified. Kenblaster has verified that he teaches his children about his God. What is unverified is the claim that this God is even real.

Do you believe nothing? Again, you hold to unverifiable philosophical assumptions, to deny it is cognitive dissonance on a par with what creationists display.
Of course I believe things. I believe things that have sound evidence supporting them. As far as I know, I don’t believe things that have zero sound evidence supporting them or sound evidence refuting them (whereas religious believers do believe such things and they indoctrinate their children with this nonsense). However, if you can point out instances where I do believe that something exists or an event occurred that has no sound evidence supporting it or has sound evidence refuting it then I will promptly stop believing it. You seem certain that I do believe such things so can you give me some examples, please?
 
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I guess if we're going to redefine terms, such as 'dead,' I brought back my wife from the dead. She was dead in hunger, the other day, and I ordered some of Domino's new pizza to try it out. She was quickened by the powerful herbs, cheeses, and sauces imbued upon the bread. My testimony may not be accepted by you, thought she is here with us.

The analogy is interesting. There is life in the blood of Jesus Christ, and His body is food indeed. Many walked away at this saying in Jesus time. Jesus Christ makes alot of extraordinary claims, because He is extraordinary, and whatever is born of God is also extraordinary. I have prayed over the years not to lose my hunger for God. He promises that if I hunger and thirst after righteousness, I will be filled. I was filled, so His promise is good. When He speaks to you in that small still voice, it will quicken you. If He spoke the universe into existence, how much more if He speaks to you, it will create something. God's word can be equated to food, a recipe that He has prepared for us to eat. His word is symbolized as honey, which is revelation, the bread of life, the living water, pure milk of the word, quails came down from heaven, and the cakes from heaven.

I was dead in the world, but I am made alive in Christ. This is resurrection indeed.
 
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It isn’t unsupported or unverified. Kenblaster has verified that he teaches his children about his God. What is unverified is the claim that this God is even real.


Of course I believe things. I believe things that have sound evidence supporting them. As far as I know, I don’t believe things that have zero sound evidence supporting them or sound evidence refuting them (whereas religious believers do believe such things and they indoctrinate their children with this nonsense). However, if you can point out instances where I do believe that something exists or an event occurred that has no sound evidence supporting it or has sound evidence refuting it then I will promptly stop believing it. You seem certain that I do believe such things so can you give me some examples, please?

Psalm 127:3-5

3. Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, The fruit of the womb is a reward.
4. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, So are the children of one's youth.
5. Happy is the man who has his quiver full of them; They shall not be ashamed, But shall speak with their enemies in the gate.

My daughter is blessed and highly favored by God and by men and women alike. I love my daughter and live my life in Christ around her and all others around me. The kingdom of God is for these little ones and to bar them from entering in would be sin and disobedience to the Lord my God. Other children in the neighborhood ask to go to church with me, and I do not turn them down.

Proverbs 11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, And he who wins souls is wise.

Proverbs 12:17 He who speaks truth declares righteousness, But a false witness, deceit.
 
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It isn’t unsupported or unverified. Kenblaster has verified that he teaches his children about his God. What is unverified is the claim that this God is even real.


Of course I believe things. I believe things that have sound evidence supporting them. As far as I know, I don’t believe things that have zero sound evidence supporting them or sound evidence refuting them (whereas religious believers do believe such things and they indoctrinate their children with this nonsense). However, if you can point out instances where I do believe that something exists or an event occurred that has no sound evidence supporting it or has sound evidence refuting it then I will promptly stop believing it. You seem certain that I do believe such things so can you give me some examples, please?

Some music today has been indocrinating our children into satanism and all kinds of evil practices, but because I abstain from this, and try to live a wholesome life around everyone I am indoctrinating my children in nonsense? Nonsense, because you cannot understand it? I have seen miracles. God has given me signs. He has filled my life with wonder and excitement and this is bad for anyone around me?

My aunt wanted to come out here to stay with me to get over alcoholism. She lives in Minnesota, where she has a lawyer who gave her a card of a person who lives here in Arizona, to ask for a job, and it just happens to be the man that I work for. What are the chances of that. God is showing her that she is coming to the right place. Yes, He wants to be a lamp to our feet, and lead us along the way. Which one of my actions would you accuse me of indoctrinatin people into nonsense. Miracles and signs are different than your dull life of evidence, facts, and ways to feel comfortable with what is seen. I get out and walk on the water. Until you try to get out and walk out on the water with Jesus Christ, you will not understand the experience. And the waves of doubt will come up, but I press on. I am bound and determined to go to heaven and take as many with me as I can. Is that wrong that I care about where people spend eternity? I don't think I would want to see you in heaven, but I will try to reach out for you anyways. Why? Because it is not my will be done, but the Lord's will be done. Do you think I would leave my daughter to your care for eternal security? Why do I need to give you evidence? You of little faith....I have been walking at this for 13 some odd years, and I have experienced promise fulfilled after promise fulfilled, and you that has not even began to crawl will tell me what I am indoctrinating my children with?
 
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