Does 'Goddidit' constitute an explanation? (2)

[AV1611VET]

I am proud of it because God did it.

Yup --- if you accept the "simple fact" that you are an ape --- (I mean, what's the harm, eh?) --- then you'll eventually have to accept the "simple fact" that your ancestors crawled out from under the abiogenesis rock.

 

[Tinker Grey]

So?

 

[Skaloop]

Yup --- if you accept the "simple fact" that you are an ape --- (I mean, what's the harm, eh?) --- then you'll eventually have to accept the "simple fact" that your ancestors crawled out from under the abiogenesis rock.

Sure. I've accepted both. No harm done.

 

[AV1611VET]

So?

So I happen to have a sin nature, which is incompatible with the teachings of evolution.

 

[SithDoughnut]

So I happen to have a sin nature, which is incompatible with the teachings of evolution.

How so? The Bible doesn't say that animals and other organisms don't have sin natures.

 

[AV1611VET]

How so? The Bible doesn't say that animals and other organisms don't have sin natures.

Adam didn't predate the animal kingdom, the animal kingdom predated Adam.

 

[Cabal]

Yup --- if you accept the "simple fact" that you are an ape --- (I mean, what's the harm, eh?) --- then you'll eventually have to accept the "simple fact" that your ancestors crawled out from under the abiogenesis rock.

Uh, no. It is possible to accept that there is similarity to other apes enough to be classified as one without accepting common descent.

This is nothing but slippery-slope scaremongering.

 

[AV1611VET]

Uh, no. It is possible to accept that there is similarity to other apes enough to be classified as one without accepting common descent.

--- huh?

 

[Nostromo]

His car might be very similar to your car, but they aren't necessarily built at the same factory.

 

[AV1611VET]

His car might be very similar to your car, but they aren't necessarily built at the same factory.

I thought we were supposed to be 'great apes' or something.

 

[BananaSlug]

You are not playing along. You seem to think you can overlook red-shift and move on to other observations as evidence for Big Bang.

Well, in case you didn't know, Big Bang and red-shift are synonymous. To ignore red-shift is to ignore Big Bang. If red-shift interpretation is flawed, then Big Bang theory is flawed and predicts nothing. And, like I said before, it is flawed.

How about replying to my whole post? Here it is again in case you missed it:

So how would the "electric universe" explain the blackbody spectrum observed in the cosmic microwave background by the COBE satellite?

Light element production as required in plasma cosmology has been discussed in the mainstream literature and was determined to produce excessive x-rays and gamma rays beyond that observed. How would you account for this?

No proposal based on plasma cosmology trying to explain the cosmic microwave background radiation has been published since COBE results were announced. How would plasma cosmology explain the cosmic microwave background radiation that was predicted with Big Bang cosmology?

The sensitivity and resolution of the measurement of these anisotropies was greatly advanced by WMAP. The fact that the CMB was measured to be so isotropic, inline with the predictions of the big bang model, was subsequently heralded as a major confirmation of the Big Bang model to the detriment of alternative hypotheses. These measurements showed the "acoustic peaks" were fit with high accuracy by the predictions of the Big Bang model and conditions of the early universe.

There was much more to my post than the one sentence you actually replied to. Accordingly, in line with your standards, the electric universe cosmology is also flawed and must be discarded.

 

[BananaSlug]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7437092-8/#post54039081

^When all else fails, pretend it doesn't exist.

 

[AV1611VET]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7437092-8/#post54039081

^When all else fails, pretend it doesn't exist.

Nothing says, "No comment," like a non-response, eh?

 

[BananaSlug]

Nothing says, "No comment," like a non-response, eh?

Why is there "no comment"? You usually have comments for everything.

 

[Doveaman]

How about replying to my whole post? Here it is again in case you missed it:

How about getting pass the first hurdle first - Redshift.

The official explanation of the NASA image states, "Appearances can be deceiving. In this NASA Hubble Space Telescope image, an odd celestial duo, the spiral galaxy NGC 4319

and a quasar called Markarian 205 [upper right], appear to be neighbors. In reality, the two objects don't even live in the same city. They are separated by time and space. NGC 4319 is 80 million light-years from Earth. Markarian 205 (Mrk 205) is more than 14 times farther away, residing 1 billion light-years from Earth. The apparent close alignment of Mrk 205 and NGC 4319 is simply a matter of chance.​

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" Professional astronomers seem to be so enamored of their 'redshift equals distance' theory that it damages their eyesight.​

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Oo look, my thread's still going! What'd I miss?

EDIT: Oh, Doveaman and his galaxy-quasar thing. That's so 2009.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Yup --- if you accept the "simple fact" that you are an ape --- (I mean, what's the harm, eh?) --- then you'll eventually have to accept the "simple fact" that your ancestors crawled out from under the abiogenesis rock.

Yep. What's the harm, eh?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

So I happen to have a sin nature, which is incompatible with the teachings of evolution.

Why?
If memory serves, Sin Nature just means that you are sinful (i.e., you commit sins), as inherited from Adam. Why is that incompatible with evolution? Even we believe that humans lived around 4000BCE.

 

[sandwiches]

How about getting pass the first hurdle first - Redshift.

[/SIZE]The official explanation of the NASA image states, "Appearances can be deceiving. In this NASA Hubble Space Telescope image, an odd celestial duo, the spiral galaxy NGC 4319

and a quasar called Markarian 205 [upper right], appear to be neighbors. In reality, the two objects don't even live in the same city. They are separated by time and space. NGC 4319 is 80 million light-years from Earth. Markarian 205 (Mrk 205) is more than 14 times farther away, residing 1 billion light-years from Earth. The apparent close alignment of Mrk 205 and NGC 4319 is simply a matter of chance.​

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" Professional astronomers seem to be so enamored of their 'redshift equals distance' theory that it damages their eyesight.​

Seems like he's a bit outdated and very wrong.

Arp originally proposed his theories in the 1960s, however, telescopes and astronomical instrumentation have advanced greatly; the Hubble Space Telescope was launched, multiple 8-10 meter telescopes (such as those at Keck Observatory) have become operational, and detectors such as CCDs are now more widely employed. These new telescopes and new instrumentation have been utilized to examine QSOs further. QSOs are now generally accepted to be very distant galaxies with high redshifts. Moreover, many imaging surveys, most notably the Hubble Deep Field, have found many high-redshift objects that are not QSOs but that appear to be normal galaxies like those found nearby. Moreover, the spectra of the high-redshift galaxies, as seen from X-ray to radio wavelengths, match the spectra of nearby galaxies (particularly galaxies with high levels of star formation activity but also galaxies with normal or extinguished star formation activity) when corrected for redshift effects.

Also, refuting Big Bang wouldn't validate a creator deity.​

 

[Doveaman]

Oo look, my thread's still going! What'd I miss?

Actually, it's my fault.

EDIT: Oh, Doveaman and his galaxy-quasar thing. That's so 2009.

Sure, sweep it under the rug.