Does God always heal?

[SpiritPsalmist]

Yesterday at 11:06 PM Br. Max said this in Post #136

when you refuse the message because of the messanger . . . you limit God. like him or not - and I do not - there is truth to be found in the research of equip.org. Its kinda hard to refute what is said when you hear it in the words of the men themselves.

Excuse me! Is not that exactly what you have done regarding Benny Hinn?  Refusing the message because of the messanger?  In your own words Bro Max, there is truth to be found in the research of the Word of God.  It's kinda hard to refute what is said when you read it in the words of God Himself.

You say you heard it yourself?  Was it just a snippet that HH cleverly put together, told you before hand what you were going to hear, and then when you heard the snippet, that's exactly what you heard?

Remember several years ago the hullabaloo over the hidden messages in records played backwards.  People who had been told ahead of time what they were gonna hear heard exactly what they were told.  People who were not told only heard garbled noise. 

I'm not preaching Benny Hinn or any of the others.  I'm preaching Jesus.  He's the one who does any healing, not Benny.  I heard Benny say with my own ears that he does not heal anyone.  Jesus heals.  Benny just happens to be the minister.

We are only vessels in the hand of the Master Potter.  Why do we keep judging the way He has chosen to use some of the vessels?  Why do we think that all of the vessels have to be used in the same way?  It makes no sense to me.

Quaffer

PS Assumptions are not allowed in a court of law, neither should they be allowed and applied toward our fellow brothers and sisters in the Lord.

 

[sklippstein]

Quaffer........do u believe that God will heal u of every sickness that u encounter? OR do u believe that God allows a sickness (NOTICE the word "allow") for a purpose to fulfill his divine Will?

Many of the saints who have gone before us were inflicted with sickness, and physical disabilities. Did this make them less of a believer.....or that their faith lacked? NO, of course not....but God did allow it to fulfill a purpose that sometimes we may never know of the reason. But God does and that is what is important. Maybe one of the reasons God does allow sickness is to show others that it truly doesn't matter what happens to this physical body because this body is not eternal.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Today at 03:29 PM sklippstein said this in Post #142

Quaffer........do u believe that God will heal u of every sickness that u encounter? OR do u believe that God allows a sickness (NOTICE the word "allow") for a purpose to fulfill his divine Will?

Many of the saints who have gone before us were inflicted with sickness, and physical disabilities. Did this make them less of a believer.....or that their faith lacked? NO, of course not....but God did allow it to fulfill a purpose that sometimes we may never know of the reason. But God does and that is what is important. Maybe one of the reasons God does allow sickness is to show others that it truly doesn't matter what happens to this physical body because this body is not eternal.

Sorry sklippstein, but I don't seem to be making myself very clear.

I believe that I already am healed of every sickness I may enounter.  Just like I am already saved.  What Jesus did on the cross covered it all.  It's not will he, it's did he.  I believe He did.

When I become sick it's because, in some way, I allowed it.  Through it God will teach me and mature me, but I do not believe that the sickness is put on me by His hand, much the same way as you might dress your child.  God clothes us in robes of righteousness, not clothes of sickness.

Would you dress your child in an aids infected pant suit?  Why do we think God does?

 

[sklippstein]

When I become sick it's because, in some way, I allowed it.

 

I can't say that i agree with this.  YES some sickness we do bring upon on ourself.  But what about those with cancer?  DID they allow this to enter their bodies?  let's not get into the lung cancer because of smokes ideal......we can all agree upon this one.  But what about breast cancer?  prostate cancer?  did these men and woman allow this to enter their bodies?  No.....i don't think so.  But God has allowed it for a purpose.  I had a very good friend who died 2 days before Thanksgiving due to liver cancer.  She was a true Christian who loved the Lord with all her heart.  She was totally convinced until the day she died that she would be healed by Jesus.  She never was healed in THIS life.....but is fully recovered in eternity with the Lord.

 

[Blade]

How about OT.

If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these dieases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.

One can not expect to be free from sickness unless he/she meets the conditions; but everyone can expect such blessings by meeting them. Ex 20:6; 23:22-25; ps 91. Now when God said "I will put none of these diseases upon thee" God is responsible for disease only in the sense of making the law of sowing and reaping. Ga 6:7-8. Making penalties for sin. Ex 15:26; 23:22-25; Lev 26; Dt 28. And permitting agencies with the power to execute the curse on man to have their way. Ps 91; Lk 13:16; Jn 10:10; Ac 10:38; Heb 2:14-15. If there had been no sin there would be no curse. When Christ reigns on earth there will be no sickness Isa 33:24;35:5-6. When God's will is done on earth as in heaven, there will be no curse. Rev 21:1-22:6. The reason given for no sickness on the obedient was, God is the healer of His people. Here God is revealed as Jehovah-Rapha, Jehovah the Healer, or Jehovah you Physician. To prove not only that he could heal, but was willing to (thus fulfilling His promises and covenants), He healed then all by his word and there was not a feeble person in all their tribes ps 105:37 107:20. God promised to make everyone immune from all diseases in the future, upon meeting conditions, just read Ex 23:22-25; Ps 91; Isa 58. Sickness and diseases were and still are special curses on human beings only when they won't obey or when they fail to understand and appropriate God's provision by faith. Dt 28 is a great one if we will but hearken to God. If you have never read this stuff you should it helps us uderstand.

 

[Blade]

Quaffer. New word hullabaloo? I LIKE IT

 

[Blade]

Today at 01:40 PM Quaffer said this in Post #143

Sorry sklippstein, but I don't seem to be making myself very clear.

I believe that I already am healed of every sickness I may enounter.  Just like I am already saved.  What Jesus did on the cross covered it all.  It's not will he, it's did he.  I believe He did.

When I become sick it's because, in some way, I allowed it.  Through it God will teach me and mature me, but I do not believe that the sickness is put on me by His hand, much the same way as you might dress your child.  God clothes us in robes of righteousness, not clothes of sickness.

Would you dress your child in an aids infected pant suit?  Why do we think God does?

Amen ISA 53:5

 

[MizDoulos]

Due to the continued bickering and various accusations, the thread has been closed. Besides, this topic has been more than sufficiently discussed.