Does free will exist?

[quatona]

I should choose this. But I like to choose that to see what will happen.

Is my choice determined?

Yes.

If there were 100 such cases, what % of my choice is determined?

100.

 

[The Engineer]

So you think my answer to your question is predetermined?

Yes, your constant evasion of the question is predetermined.

 

[juvenissun]

Yes.


100.

"F-"

 

[sandwiches]

"F-"

That's also determined... just sayin'

 

[pgp_protector]

That's also determined... just sayin'

Most everyone even saw it coming

 

[Ken-1122]

Neural pathways may be changing over time, but they don't do so randomly, but according to a multitude of factors. How your brain, and hence your mind, looks like at any given point is predetermined by those factors.


If the input and the equation (her neural circuits) stay the same, the outcome will also always stay the same.

but that has nothing to do with your thoughts; if it did, we would be able to read minds by simply looking at the brain; and as you know we don't have the technology to do that. Got anything else?

Ken

 

[sandwiches]

but that has nothing to do with your thoughts; if it did, we would be able to read minds by simply looking at the brain; and as you know we don't have the technology to do that. Got anything else?

Ken

wat

Your brain and its neural pathways have nothing to do with you thoughts?

 

[pgp_protector]

but that has nothing to do with your thoughts; if it did, we would be able to read minds by simply looking at the brain; and as you know we don't have the technology to do that. Got anything else?

Ken

September 22, 2011
Scientists use brain imaging to reveal the movies in our mind

 

[Ken-1122]

wat

Your brain and its neural pathways have nothing to do with you thoughts?

my pont exactly

K

 

[sandwiches]

my pont exactly

K

Let me make sure I got this right: You are asserting that the brain and the neurons that make it up have nothing to do with thoughts?

 

[Ken-1122]

Let me make sure I got this right: You are asserting that the brain and the neurons that make it up have nothing to do with thoughts?

Not quite; I'm saying you can't read all of a person's thoughts by looking at his brain.

Ken

 

[pgp_protector]

Not quite; I'm saying you can't read all of a person's thoughts by looking at his brain.

Ken

yet.

 

[Gracchus]

I'm saying you can't read all of a person's thoughts by looking at his brain.

yet.

But sooner than you want to believe...

 

[Ken-1122]

yet.

My point is, we do have free will, our thoughts aren't forced upon us

K

 

[Ken-1122]

But sooner than you want to believe...

My point is, we do have freewill, our thoughts aren't forced upon us.

K

 

[sandwiches]

Not quite; I'm saying you can't read all of a person's thoughts by looking at his brain.

Ken

How does that make thoughts not dependent on the state of the neural pathways that make up the brain?

 

[Ken-1122]

How does that make thoughts not dependent on the state of the neural pathways that make up the brain?

Why don't you explain how it does. Explain how it is possible to look at a person's brain and be able to tell exactly what he is thinking.

Len

 

[sandwiches]

Why don't you explain how it does.

Thoughts are a process resulting from the electro-chemical states of the brain and interrupting or altering brain activity interrupts and/or alters thought processes. There's hundreds of medical papers on the subject.

Now, if thoughts aren't a result of the state of brain states, then what are they, in your opinion? I have neuroscience on my side, so what evidence do you base your opinion on?

Explain how it is possible to look at a person's brain and be able to tell exactly what he is thinking.

Quote me where I said it was or we're done with that line of nonsense.

 

[AHJE]

The mind and body (of which the brain is part) are interconnected. KIND of like the software and its programs are interconnected with the hardware of a computer.

Yet the RATIONAL SOUL (with intellect and free will) is not material, but spiritual.

God bless you.

 

[Gracchus]

Yet the RATIONAL SOUL (with intellect and free will) is not material, but spiritual.

Which is to say, it is not real, but a fantasy.