Does Evolution conflict with the Bible?

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That's it? No other uses? Anything practical?

What could be better than that?

 

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Based on my understanding of religious beliefs and society, religious does appear to lead people to be happier, although that appears to be due to fostering social connections, not necessarily because of any supernatural involvement. So I will grant that religious beliefs can be used to connect to a community based around said religious belief.

OK, I'll take it.

Conversely religious belief is inversely correlated with both wealth and educational attainment, so it clearly doesn't foster everything.

I would check your study. Ancient Israel did great when they were right with God. Nations prosper when they (although still wicked in many areas) respect and honor God and His word and His people. When they don't--well look at the exodus--they get clobbered.

 

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You would be hard pushed to find any carbon in soil, prior to plant and microbial life plucking it from the atmosphere, and then decaying.

Get over your preconceived little wrong notions. God can take from soil all that is needed to make a man. Avi pointed out that even from rocks He could raise a new people. Did you really think He was a lame brained as science?

 

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In other words if a prayer comes true it was a "correct" one. Do you not see how incredibly circular this is?

Get over these strange notions. Prayer does not need to 'come true' to be answered! You seem to be confusing prayer with some fairy tale about a genie granting three wishes?

 

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Before specifically being planted in the Garden of Eden. They existed day 4.

Exactly.

 

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I would check your study. Ancient Israel did great when they were right with God. Nations prosper when they (although still wicked in many areas) respect and honor God and His word and His people. When they don't--well look at the exodus--they get clobbered.

Ancient Israel was a few thousand years ago. I'm talking modern day.

 

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I made my point long ago. I am sorry it went over your head.

I do not hunt down ghost posts in the twilight zone. They need to be right there and clear as a bell.

The apostles had a valid excuse for their ignorance. The apostles also believed that the Earth was the center of the universe. We don't blame them for that. Creationism is a reaction to the theory of evolution.

You are allowed to practice such defamation of character in the forum? Strange.

You really don't know how logic works.

Your logic? No. Haven't seen it yet.

No, your mythical beliefs are not the reason that we are falling behind. The nations that are prospering right now are those that fully embrace science.

Germany did that in Hitler's day. North Korea seems to do the best they can on that score.

You really need to know when and how to use qualifiers. I may not jive with your version of God, that does not mean that God and I do not jive.

Whatever god that may be, it is not the God in the bible. Therefore I don't care if you do the twist together.

 

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Ancient Israel was a few thousand years ago. I'm talking modern day.

Britain sent more missionaries and printed bibles, and became very prosperous. I hear that Queen Victoria held up a bible one time, and pointed to it, saying that THIS was the reason England prospered.

After that, her young whelp, America sent out more missionaries and printed more bibles, and they prospered for a long while. The real ebb and flow of history can only be understood in the light of God.

 

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I always get a kick out of how some Christians explain this stuff.

When something good happens, they give credit to God and say it was his will. When something bad happens, they say; who could know the will of God?

Absolutely hilarious.

ALL things work for good to His people actually.

 

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Britain sent more missionaries and printed bibles, and became very prosperous. I hear that Queen Victoria held up a bible one time, and pointed to it, saying that THIS was the reason England prospered.

After that, her young whelp, America sent out more missionaries and printed more bibles, and they prospered for a long while. The real ebb and flow of history can only be understood in the light of God.

There are a lot of reasons that both Britain and American have prospered. In the case of Britain, being an island nation certainly helped, along with their relentless colonialism.

With America, they too have large ocean borders, access to significant natural resources and a free-market capitalist society. That more than anything led to America's success. It's a little harder to trace it to fervent religious belief. Especially when one looks at correlations between religious belief within a country like America and it's correlation with social issues. Not to mention other countries; currently countries with some of the more fervent religious beliefs tend to have far more social issues including outright war than those who don't.

Not saying that religion is necessarily the cause of all that suffering though, but it certainly seems to correlate with it.

 

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Get over these strange notions. Prayer does not need to 'come true' to be answered! You seem to be confusing prayer with some fairy tale about a genie granting three wishes?

I was going by your claim about prayers.

But to be honest when tested prayers have not had a positive effect. If anything they had a negative effect. Unless you can think of another ways to test prayer:

Long-Awaited Medical Study Questions the Power of Prayer

 

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I do not hunt down ghost posts in the twilight zone. They need to be right there and clear as a bell.

Then ask when posted. Otherwise don't complain if you come late into a conversation.

You are allowed to practice such defamation of character in the forum? Strange.
Your logic? No. Haven't seen it yet.

Nope, I never did that. You seem to be conflating me with creationists. And you do not know what logic is so of course you cannot recognize it.

Germany did that in Hitler's day. North Korea seems to do the best they can on that score.

Hardly. Anti-semitism is not a scientific approach to a problem. And North Korea has made a god of their leader. They are making a theistic approach to their problems, that never works out.

Whatever god that may be, it is not the God in the bible. Therefore I don't care if you do the twist together.

Wrong again. I merely go against your version of the "God in the bible". You are making the mistake of believing that you have the only version in existence.

 

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Long-Awaited Medical Study Questions the Power of Prayer

Zechariah 4:6b Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

 

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Zechariah 4:6b Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

That is no answer. Prayer still does not appear to work.

 

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That is no answer. Prayer still does not appear to work.

 

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Then why do evangelical Christians have the highest divorce rates? Are they worse at prayer than atheists?

U.S. divorce rates: for various faith groups, age groups and geographical areas

 

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Still a failure that is belied by reality.

 

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There are a lot of reasons that both Britain and American have prospered. In the case of Britain, being an island nation certainly helped, along with their relentless colonialism.

With America, they too have large ocean borders, access to significant natural resources and a free-market capitalist society. That more than anything led to America's success. It's a little harder to trace it to fervent religious belief. Especially when one looks at correlations between religious belief within a country like America and it's correlation with social issues. Not to mention other countries; currently countries with some of the more fervent religious beliefs tend to have far more social issues including outright war than those who don't.

Not saying that religion is necessarily the cause of all that suffering though, but it certainly seems to correlate with it.

So the natives were the world power before? If it was the land, I guess your theory says they would have been.

The poor we have always, in every country. The nations, even those that get a blessing from being good to His people, are still basically wicked nations.

 

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Then why do evangelical Christians have the highest divorce rates? Are they worse at prayer than atheists?

U.S. divorce rates: for various faith groups, age groups and geographical areas

Belgium has one of the highest divorce rates apparently. 71%. You think they are Evangelical Christians?
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/world/worlds-10-most-divorced-nations/
You do realize that even if believers divorce they do not lose their salvation? Which is a bigger affront to Scripture, to wade in the lie of evolution, or to part ways, often for bonifide reasons?

 

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Then ask when posted. Otherwise don't complain if you come late into a conversation

No need to ask, your posts must be self explanatory, rather than self congratulatory.

Hardly. Anti-semitism is not a scientific approach to a problem. And North Korea has made a god of their leader. They are making a theistic approach to their problems, that never works out.

So they don't count as examples of being blessed or cursed according to how they treat God and His people?

Wrong again. I merely go against your version of the "God in the bible". You are making the mistake of believing that you have the only version in existence.

My version of God the bible? Either He is in there or not.