Does Doctrine matter?

[New_Wineskin]

So Peter was incorrect too?
1Pet 20who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge[e] of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

Phillip didn't say anything about salvation through water . You forgot that Phillip was a Jew who knew what water was about as a Jewish ritual .

As far as Peter goes , he didn't say that water saved anyone . He said that the water of Noah's day "symbolizes the baptism that now saves . If you look up at the beginning of the context of that passage , he discusses the baptism that saves us - Christ's death and ressurection .

( NIV )

18For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19through whom[d] also he went and preached to the spirits in prison

—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge[e] of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand—with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.

His death and resurrection is the baptism that saves . He actually did what the jewish ritual of water baptism symbolizes .

 

[New_Wineskin]

Sorry. This was the scripture in the first post that started this all.
1Ti 4:16
Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you. NASB

Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. KJV

Take heed vnto thy selfe, and vnto the doctrine: continue in them: for in doing this, thou shalt both saue thy selfe, and them that heare thee. KJ 1611

I agree... but according to this scripture GOD sees them (life and doctrine) as equally important and without BOTH we and our hearers will NOT be saved.
In Him
Rick

Ok . Thank you .

That passage says *nothing* about the scriptures - only doctrine/teaching . It also soes not say anything that they alone save anyone - it says "enure" not "bring about" or "initiate" . Lastly , Paul does not list what this teaching/doctrine is .

 

[Sephania]

Since the first Mod hat was overlooked.

Thread is closed for a cool off. Please remember these are real life people that you are speaking to through this internet board. Each and everyone of them have been made in G-ds image.
I'm closing this awhile so we all can dwell on what really matters, loving one another.

Zayit
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