does dawn refer to night?

[Dave-W]

Shine your light in me
Shine into the darkness
That others may see

And that helps the OP ... how exactly?

 

[W2L]

And that helps the OP ... how exactly?

Forgive me.

 

[brinny]

Shine your light in me
Shine into the darkness
That others may see

Amen. Thank you!!!

 

[brinny]

And that helps the OP ... how exactly?

It helped me, Dave. i needed it right about then. (((hug)))

 

[brinny]

Forgive me.

(((hug)))

 

[W2L]

It helped me, Dave. i needed it right about then. (((hug)))

Praise the Lord. It helped me too. Its what i have been meditating on. I want to shine.

 

[brinny]

Praise the Lord. It helped me too. Its what i have been meditating on. I want to shine.

Praise God!!!!

 

[Steve Petersen]

So read the OP already ....

Someone was telling Sam that "dawn" meant night.
He was asking for more information to clear it up in his mind.

If 'dawning' as it is used of the resurrection passages is what generated the question, as I understand it, it could also be read 'turning into' the next day. From a Jewish perspective, this would be at evening.

 

[Dave-W]

If 'dawning' as it is used of the resurrection passages is what generated the question, as I understand it, it could also be read 'turning into' the next day. From a Jewish perspective, this would be at evening.

That would be a very poor translation; which could explain why poor Sam was confused by it.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

IMHO dawn means the end of darkness and the beginning of light. It is the dividing line.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

IMHO dawn means the end of darkness and the beginning of light. It is the dividing line.

That may be right and good in proper context.
It is not always what is meant in the context in English translations of Scripture.

 

[Sammy-San]

IMHO dawn means the end of darkness and the beginning of light. It is the dividing line.

In some translations what you are referring to may be that a new day dawning begins at sunset, all through Scripture, since creation,
very different from western thought (and maybe from greek ways of thinking also).

English and greek and western ways of thinking and speaking and writing and so forth is often very different from Yahweh's meaning in His Word (i.e. The meaning in Scripture).

The Father in Heaven is exceedingly and extravagantly generous and joyous to reveal this, to reveal everything about Salvation concerning this life and the life to come,
to little children trusting Him and relying on Him.

that person implied there was no night it referred to dawn.

 

[brinny]

that person implied there was no night it referred to dawn.

Read the Bible verses that Dave posted, Sam.

 

[Sammy-San]

There are only 2 mentions of "dawn" in Genesis:

Genesis 19:15
When morning dawned, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Up, take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away in the punishment of the city.”​

Genesis 32:26
Then he said, “Let me go, for the dawn is breaking.” But he said, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”​

Both refer to sunrise.

so night in the first part of Genesis is or isnt night?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Just to try to clarify where you're coming from or going or what you're looking for >
It looks like a couple different aspects in different posts got mixed up....

that person implied there was no night it referred to dawn.

Note the quote of what you said in my post:
"Superhero Sam said: ↑
in the book of genesis. I remember a person commented somethin about it referrin to night."

I replied to your post re someone "a person" commented "referring to night":

" In some translations what you are referring to may be that a new day dawning begins at sunset, all through Scripture, since creation,
very different from western thought (and maybe from greek ways of thinking also).

English and greek and western ways of thinking and speaking and writing and so forth is often very different from Yahweh's meaning in His Word (i.e. The meaning in Scripture).

The Father in Heaven is exceedingly and extravagantly generous and joyous to reveal this, to reveal everything about Salvation concerning this life and the life to come,
to little children trusting Him and relying on Him."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

so night in the first part of Genesis is or isnt night?

What verse(s) specifically ?

 

[Dave-W]

so night in the first part of Genesis is or isnt night?

Do you mean here:

Genesis 1:14
Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;

Genesis 1:16
God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also.

Genesis 1:18
and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good.

In all these verses "night" is the Hebrew word לַיִל la YEEL. H3915

1. night
   1. night (as opposed to day)
   2. of gloom, protective shadow (fig.)
      

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

so night in the first part of Genesis is or isnt night?

Let us look at what the scripture says.
Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness wasa]">[a] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.NKJV

So here we see darkness at the beginning, not yet called night.

Gen. 1:3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
Here we see light, not yet called day.

Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

Here is when we get the light called day and the darkness called night. Here also we see evening beginning the day, so (imho) the dawn of the first day began in the evening according to scripture. Someone else may understand it differently. Like I said in the earlier post dawn, and dusk also is that time between day and night, light and darkness.

 

[Sammy-San]

What verse(s) specifically ?

Genesis 1:16 God made two great lights--the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.

They think the lesser light to rule the night refers to (paraphrasing him) a lesser light to rule the dawn.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

the dawn of the first day began in the evening according to scripture.

As related a few times earlier by a few, yes -
as "dawn" or "dawning" can mean the "beginning" of something (even an idea, realization or beginning of understanding, like when something "dawns" upon someone)
so also in Scripture the "dawn" of a day , IN ENGLISH, is often seen and NOT realized to mean the beginning of a new day (at sunset). Likewise, I think, some translations might say IN ENGLISH "in the morning" when that is not at all what is meant originally in some contexts.
In other places IN ENGLISH, the dawn or "in the morning" is appropriate and is meaning the time of day as the sun rises in the east....
So , IN ENGLISH (and likewise western thought) , is sometimes confusing if not actually an error.