Does Cain’s punishment support evolution?

[1an]

It just don't look good for anyone related to Esau.
Tares I wonder?

Indignation forever.
So God changed his mind or dropped his indignation towards Esau and his seed? Does he have indignation for Esau forever or not?
Was his anger only for an age? These are some tough questions that few in the church never discussed. Martin Luther did discuss these things. He distrusted Edomites and hated who the Lord hated just as King David did.


Psa 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

Do you think Esau's kindred belong in Israel acting like Jacob's seed?

Revelations 2:9
The Blasphemy of them Which say they are Jews, and are Not

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I don't think it is a question of God changing his mind. The requirements for personal salvation are clearly defined and it is the person themselves who needs to repent and turn to God, not the other way round.

As far as the nations are concerned, countries and people do have national characteristics and as we know some countries are atheist and all countries have their own identity. Personally I believe God blesses the nations who follow Him and we see this with the Israelites in the Old Testament, when they turned to God there was peace and they prospered and when they turned away from God all hell was let lose.

However let us remember that earthly wealth is only for a season and we cannot take it with us. I often see Jews on the internet talk about 'their' land and I really cannot understand their attitude, it is their soul that is important and we discussed this earlier in the thread that God's special people are those who follow Him in faith like Abraham, they are Israel and it has nothing to do with where you live or who your ancestors are.

I suggest you do not get upset over land or tribes, your salvation is your responsibility and we all need to be right with God. He knows His own and there are the most beautiful believers in even the most atheistic countries. Just keep close to God and repent of your sins and follow Him, the rest is in His hands and he cares for us the same as he cares for the sparrow. Just my two cents worth.

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[Jpark]

Not evolution. It is loss of physical stature; Cain's descendents were cursed to be like modern man, weak and vulnerable compared to the sturdy stature of Adam and his sons.

 

[Isreal]

I don't think it is a question of God changing his mind. The requirements for personal salvation are clearly defined and it is the person themselves who needs to repent and turn to God, not the other way round.

As far as the nations are concerned, countries and people do have national characteristics and as we know some countries are atheist and all countries have their own identity. Personally I believe God blesses the nations who follow Him and we see this with the Israelites in the Old Testament, when they turned to God there was peace and they prospered and when they turned away from God all hell was let lose.

However let us remember that earthly wealth is only for a season and we cannot take it with us. I often see Jews on the internet talk about 'their' land and I really cannot understand their attitude, it is their soul that is important and we discussed this earlier in the thread that God's special people are those who follow Him in faith like Abraham, they are Israel and it has nothing to do with where you live or who your ancestors are.

I suggest you do not get upset over land or tribes, your salvation is your responsibility and we all need to be right with God. He knows His own and there are the most beautiful believers in even the most atheistic countries. Just keep close to God and repent of your sins and follow Him, the rest is in His hands and he cares for us the same as he cares for the sparrow. Just my two cents worth.

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I would have agreed with this a decade ago.
But deeper study reveals another plan than what the mainstream churches claims.

because of Abrahams faith many promises were made to him and his seed. In Jacob shall his seed be called. Israel would bless the world. Modern Israel hasn't blessed anyone but themselves.

The REAL Israel, the true descendents of Abraham have blessed the world in many ways and continued to do so, They have fathers many nations and JEWs have not. Those who falsely claim to be Judeans but are not and do blaspheme with their lies about being Israelites or Judeans control Jerusalem today. Rev 2:9 & 3:9.
The blasphemy continues while most ignorant Christians think they should bless them lest they be cursed. Our sheeplike stupidity is laughable. They mock us even. Esau is in the house.

The true seed of Abraham has blessed the entire world with the Gospel message and numerous inventions to make everyone's lives better if they blessed the true Israelites who live under another name.


Scriptures say that ALL Israel shall be saved.
Take it however you want to but it means Every last child of Abraham will be saved, one day. The true Israelites.

Christ said this.
I have come only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel

And he said this to his disciples:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


The lost sheep weren't lost the way we think of it today.
The apostles knew exactly where they were and they weren't called Jews. See James 1:1

The kinsmen of Christ moved to a new land as foretold by God where they would move no more and not fight always as before.
Esau is playing Jacob and is fighting always like Israel once did before God moved them to safety. Israel has ruled the gateways of the sea and is the only common wealth in the history of the world other than old Israel who was first called a common wealth..

These were promises made to Abraham and fulfilled by People that are not Jewish,

1. His seed was to be scattered to all parts of the Earth and be innumerable, like the sand of the sea.
2. Many nations would come from his seed.
3. His seed would become a common wealth of Nations
4. His seed would become a Mighty Nation and be called Great(Great Britain)
5. His seed would bless the world
6. His seed would stand in the gates of his enemies
7. his seed would rule the gateways to the seas.
8. They would occupy the isles far off and coastlands. (British Isles and surrounding coast-- Holland, France, Norway, Spain etc)
It's no coincidence that B'ritish means covenant people in Hebrew.


Isa 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUS


Judah has been saved and Israel dwells in peace for the moment though Esau(phoney( Israel) continues to try and drag us into wars for the sake.

I am no Jew but I am of the tribe of Zarah a son of Judah.



Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.


We are living in the time of Jacobs trouble and Esau is the cause of our troubles. Until the church wakes up they will continue to bless the blasphemous Synagogue of Satan in ignorance and allow the terror that is Esau's nature.



A messaage to Edom
Jer 49:15 For, lo, I will make thee small among the heathen, and despised among men.



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[1an]

I would have agreed with this a decade ago.
But deeper study reveals another plan than what the mainstream churches claims.

because of Abrahams faith many promises were made to him and his seed. In Jacob shall his seed be called. Israel would bless the world. Modern Israel hasn't blessed anyone but themselves.

The REAL Israel, the true descendents of Abraham have blessed the world in many ways and continued to do so, They have fathers many nations and JEWs have not. Those who falsely claim to be Judeans but are not and do blaspheme with their lies about being Israelites or Judeans control Jerusalem today. Rev 2:9 & 3:9.
The blasphemy continues while most ignorant Christians think they should bless them lest they be cursed. Our sheeplike stupidity is laughable. They mock us even. Esau is in the house.

The true seed of Abraham has blessed the entire world with the Gospel message and numerous inventions to make everyone's lives better if they blessed the true Israelites who live under another name.


Scriptures say that ALL Israel shall be saved.
Take it however you want to but it means Every last child of Abraham will be saved, one day. The true Israelites.

Christ said this.
I have come only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel

And he said this to his disciples:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


The lost sheep weren't lost the way we think of it today.
The apostles knew exactly where they were and they weren't called Jews. See James 1:1

The kinsmen of Christ moved to a new land as foretold by God where they would move no more and not fight always as before.
Esau is playing Jacob and is fighting always like Israel once did before God moved them to safety. Israel has ruled the gateways of the sea and is the only common wealth in the history of the world other than old Israel who was first called a common wealth..

These were promises made to Abraham and fulfilled by People that are not Jewish,

1. His seed was to be scattered to all parts of the Earth and be innumerable, like the sand of the sea.
2. Many nations would come from his seed.
3. His seed would become a common wealth of Nations
4. His seed would become a Mighty Nation and be called Great(Great Britain)
5. His seed would bless the world
6. His seed would stand in the gates of his enemies
7. his seed would rule the gateways to the seas.
8. They would occupy the isles far off and coastlands. (British Isles and surrounding coast-- Holland, France, Norway, Spain etc)
It's no coincidence that B'ritish means covenant people in Hebrew.


Isa 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUS

Judah has been saved and Israel dwells in peace for the moment though Esau(phoney( Israel) continues to try and drag us into wars for the sake.

I am no Jew but I am of the tribe of Zarah a son of Judah.

Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

We are living in the time of Jacobs trouble and Esau is the cause of our troubles. Until the church wakes up they will continue to bless the blasphemous Synagogue of Satan in ignorance and allow the terror that is Esau's nature.

A messaage to Edom
Jer 49:15 For, lo, I will make thee small among the heathen, and despised among men.
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2474 Israḗl (transliterated from the OT term 3478 /Nazaréth, "Israel") – Israel; the elect-nation of God in the OT "consummated by the inclusion of Gentile believers in the NT to form the body of Christ" (cf. 1 Cor 12:13 with Gal 6:16) (G. Archer).


1 Cor 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Galatians 3:7 Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham.

Galatians 3:29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Philippians 3:3 For it is we who are the circumcision, (believers) we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh--

As progmonk said : -
For God so loved the world that he sent his only Son, that whoever believed in him might not perish but have eternal life.

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[dagelos]

For God so loved the world that he sent his only Son, that whoever believed in him might not perish but have eternal life

John 6:44:No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:65:And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.



Malachi1:2-3:2I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, 3And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.


Romans 9:13:As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.






If God hated Just one person he couldn't ''so love the world''?????

 

[1an]

John 6:44:No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:65:And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Malachi1:2-3:2I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, 3And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Romans 9:13:As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

If God hated Just one person he couldn't ''so love the world''?????

What's the problem?

He came into the world which he created, that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

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[Gozreht]

I would have agreed with this a decade ago.
But deeper study reveals another plan than what the mainstream churches claims.

because of Abrahams faith many promises were made to him and his seed. In Jacob shall his seed be called. Israel would bless the world. Modern Israel hasn't blessed anyone but themselves.

The REAL Israel, the true descendents of Abraham have blessed the world in many ways and continued to do so, They have fathers many nations and JEWs have not. Those who falsely claim to be Judeans but are not and do blaspheme with their lies about being Israelites or Judeans control Jerusalem today. Rev 2:9 & 3:9.
The blasphemy continues while most ignorant Christians think they should bless them lest they be cursed. Our sheeplike stupidity is laughable. They mock us even. Esau is in the house.

The true seed of Abraham has blessed the entire world with the Gospel message and numerous inventions to make everyone's lives better if they blessed the true Israelites who live under another name.


Scriptures say that ALL Israel shall be saved.
Take it however you want to but it means Every last child of Abraham will be saved, one day. The true Israelites.

Christ said this.
I have come only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel

And he said this to his disciples:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


The lost sheep weren't lost the way we think of it today.
The apostles knew exactly where they were and they weren't called Jews. See James 1:1

The kinsmen of Christ moved to a new land as foretold by God where they would move no more and not fight always as before.
Esau is playing Jacob and is fighting always like Israel once did before God moved them to safety. Israel has ruled the gateways of the sea and is the only common wealth in the history of the world other than old Israel who was first called a common wealth..

These were promises made to Abraham and fulfilled by People that are not Jewish,

1. His seed was to be scattered to all parts of the Earth and be innumerable, like the sand of the sea.
2. Many nations would come from his seed.
3. His seed would become a common wealth of Nations
4. His seed would become a Mighty Nation and be called Great(Great Britain)
5. His seed would bless the world
6. His seed would stand in the gates of his enemies
7. his seed would rule the gateways to the seas.
8. They would occupy the isles far off and coastlands. (British Isles and surrounding coast-- Holland, France, Norway, Spain etc)
It's no coincidence that B'ritish means covenant people in Hebrew.


Isa 45:17 But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUS


Judah has been saved and Israel dwells in peace for the moment though Esau(phoney( Israel) continues to try and drag us into wars for the sake.

I am no Jew but I am of the tribe of Zarah a son of Judah.



Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.


We are living in the time of Jacobs trouble and Esau is the cause of our troubles. Until the church wakes up they will continue to bless the blasphemous Synagogue of Satan in ignorance and allow the terror that is Esau's nature.



A messaage to Edom
Jer 49:15 For, lo, I will make thee small among the heathen, and despised among men. .

Wow. I went to a couple of more sites to try and understand who and what you are. I was wrong. You believe you are part of the lost tribes of Israel but not Black Jews like I mentioned before.

You think the British are one of those lost tribes. The lion of Judah equals Britain because of the lion being its symbol, the red hand and scarlet thread and stuff. I think I got it now.

See if I have this right this time, since you didn't answer it last time. Judah had two sons; Perez and Zerah. Jews claim that Perez was the chosen people but true Israelites say that Zerah is the chosen people.

And now Christians have followed the teachings of Jews, not the Israelites, and have deceived themselves thinking Jesus was a jew, but was another Israelite.

Am I anywhere close?

 

[dagelos]

What's the problem?

He came into the world which he created, that whosoever believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

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http://www.israelect.com/reference/...st Misapplied Verses in the New Testament.pdf

The Two Most Misapplied Verses in the New Testament

 

[Isreal]

Wow. I went to a couple of more sites to try and understand who and what you are. I was wrong. You believe you are part of the lost tribes of Israel but not Black Jews like I mentioned before.

You think the British are one of those lost tribes. The lion of Judah equals Britain because of the lion being its symbol, the red hand and scarlet thread and stuff. I think I got it now.

See if I have this right this time, since you didn't answer it last time. Judah had two sons; Perez and Zerah. Jews claim that Perez was the chosen people but true Israelites say that Zerah is the chosen people.

And now Christians have followed the teachings of Jews, not the Israelites, and have deceived themselves thinking Jesus was a jew, but was another Israelite.

Am I anywhere close?

Yes, no, no yes. no and not in that order. lol


Take a look at this video first.. and see if it helps

The lost sheep of the house of Israel - YouTube


In the Pharez and Zarah story the birth caused a breech of contract.
According to prophecy the breach had to be repaired or fixed.
That breach was repaired when the two came together.
The two came together when Zedikiahs daughter of the Phraez branch married into the Zarah branch. Fixed just after her Father Zedekiah was killed and had no sons to rule.

the promise to David was that he kin would always rule on the throne, forever.

So Zedekiah is the last known King of Judea.
Did the prophecy or promise to David fail?

No...
Can you tell me where Judah had kings ruling during Jeremiahs day after Zedekiahs death?
There had to be Kings in order to make the promise to David good.


In 1581 Vincenzio Galilei (father of the astronomer, Galileo Galilei) wrote that the Irish believed themselves descended from David, King of Israel, and that was why they used a harp as their symbol.

Spartans were Hebrews who left Moses in the desert and created the settlement called Sparta.
These Spartans later settled Sicily and part of Italy. A river called Tara runs through Sparta and Italy has a river with the same name traveling near Rome where the landed there.

Corinth was part of old Sparta and Paul addressed them as Brothers who were with Moses in the desert. But the book of Maccabees points out the Spartans as old Hebrews.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

http://www.israelect.com/reference/...st Misapplied Verses in the New Testament.pdf

The Two Most Misapplied Verses in the New Testament

I've never understood why people try defending the Bible by saying it's wrong ...

Spartans were Hebrews who left Moses in the desert and created the settlement called Sparta.
These Spartans later settled Sicily and part of Italy. A river called Tara runs through Sparta and Italy has a river with the same name traveling near Rome where the landed there.

The Bible says the Hebrews wandered the land for thrity-eight years before entering the land of Canaan, which is in the Middle-East. Sparta is on one of the Greek islands. You're mixing up two completely different places.

These were promises made to Abraham and fulfilled by People that are not Jewish,

1. His seed was to be scattered to all parts of the Earth and be innumerable, like the sand of the sea.
2. Many nations would come from his seed.
3. His seed would become a common wealth of Nations
4. His seed would become a Mighty Nation and be called Great(Great Britain)
5. His seed would bless the world
6. His seed would stand in the gates of his enemies
7. his seed would rule the gateways to the seas.
8. They would occupy the isles far off and coastlands. (British Isles and surrounding coast-- Holland, France, Norway, Spain etc)
It's no coincidence that B'ritish means covenant people in Hebrew.

"B'ritish" is not a Hebrew word and Britian is mentioned nowhere in the Bible. Saying "they would occupy isles far off" is so vague. How do you know they weren't talking about Hawaii or Japan?

Sources please.

 

[Keachian]

This thread makes baby Jesus cry

 

[1an]

This thread makes baby Jesus cry

I agree with you.

I was brought up on B.I. from being about ten years of age. Both my mothers family and my fathers family were into it and both my father and grandmother used to be invited to give talks.

Let me just say that even if it is true it has nothing to do with salvation and I will leave it there.


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[Keachian]

I agree with you.

I was brought up on B.I. from being about ten years of age. Both my mothers family and my fathers family were into it and both my father and grandmother used to be invited to give talks.

Let me just say that even if it is true it has nothing to do with salvation and I will leave it there.


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We've got to remember this is the Internet, where heresies long declared such thrive and try to pass themselves off as orthodoxy, where anyone and his dog can have fun redefining reality to suit their own ideas, making themselves their own God, isn't this part of what Paul said in Romans 2?

 

[1an]

We've got to remember this is the Internet, where heresies long declared such thrive and try to pass themselves off as orthodoxy, where anyone and his dog can have fun redefining reality to suit their own ideas, making themselves their own God, isn't this part of what Paul said in Romans 2?

Rom2:28
For a person is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision something that is outward in the flesh, but someone is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart by the Spirit and not by the written code. This person’s praise is not from people but from God.

Salvation is for sinners and those who accept Christ into their lives through faith are among the Children of God the same as Abraham who walked in faith with the Lord.

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[Isreal]

Rom2:28
For a person is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision something that is outward in the flesh, but someone is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart by the Spirit and not by the written code. This person’s praise is not from people but from God.

Salvation is for sinners and those who accept Christ into their lives through faith are among the Children of God the same as Abraham who walked in faith with the Lord.

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The translators of King James added an incorrect word.
It wasn't Jew but Judean. Bad influences which came about and only continue the deception by those who have an agenda. You you all seem just fine with continuing to further the lies of those of the synagogue of Satan who Blaspheme our lord. Rev 2:9


Let me say that Baby Jesus grew up into a Man and was crucified for ALL the sins of the world. It seems you've never heard the complete story. Your shaming tactics don't work here and only reveal the lack of knowledge and blindness that is so common among the sheeple.



In the letters to the churches in Revelations which represent all the churches through the ages and the types of churches now and then, if you study these things you will see that Christ was not real happy with any of them, though the church at Philly was full of brotherly love it was still incomplete.. Brotherly love means.... ?
We are not all Brothers.. Christ returned for his kindred a.k.a. the brethern. "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." And they weren't Jews.

Apostle Paul was one that got mixed up with Jews and went into head first into the perverted religion that was later called Judaism.


The word Jewish was used once in scripture and written different than the Greek word for Judean and it was associated with Fables. Your blindness has caused you all to stumble and fall for their Fables like so many today. Pray that your eyes may be opened.

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Concerning those you think are Gods chosen, look what Paul said about theme e
Tit 1:10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
Tit 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Tit 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Tit 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith
Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. hh

And you want to continue giving heed to Jewish fables.


"My sheep hear my voice and follow me."


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[Isreal]

The Bible says the Hebrews wandered the land for thrity-eight years before entering the land of Canaan, which is in the Middle-East. Sparta is on one of the Greek islands. You're mixing up two completely different places.


"B'ritish" is not a Hebrew word and Britian is mentioned nowhere in the Bible. Saying "they would occupy isles far off" is so vague. How do you know they weren't talking about Hawaii or Japan?

Sources please.

British is very similar to the Hebrew words for Covenant Man..

B'rit Ish are Hebrew words for Covenant and Man

What is vague about the planting of Israel is your knowledge on the subject.

The lord said he would hide their identity and it obviously hasn't been revealed to you... yet

thanks for you playing

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[Gozreht]

Does Irish mean fight and man?

It's just a play on words. One time I was on a forum with an atheist and he said Christian were pagans but didn't know it because we say Amen. And the Egyptian word for sun is Amon and he claime dit was the same word, but one was in Hebrew and the other was Old Egyptian.

JerUSAlem. Does that mean the US should be involved with everything this city does? No. These are mere coincidences.

So...
Was Jesus an Israelite? What about the Apostles? Did the Jews or Israelites yell crucify?

You never did address some of my issues. I showed you where Jesus was of Judah from the scriptures. Do you believe in these scriptures? You quote Paul but then say he was wrong because he was a Jew. Which is it? You want us to read Titus and say Romans only had bad translation (jew and judean) but Paul wrote this as well, wouldn't the whole book be bad?

You are getting me more confused with the more you say.

How do you come to the conclusion you are from Zerah anyway? Are you from Britain?

You need to establish these so your credibility can be established. Right now, you're not doing so well.

 

[Gozreht]

Wow. I am still reading more and more about this British Israelism. Are they serious? Only white people can be saved? The Royal family is of the line of David? Even though the line had split many times? The King James Version has errors but was authorized by the Royal family so how could it have errors based on what the argument is?

Have you all read about the lives of the founders of this belief? This is very close to LDS church. I think once I get my answers I will be done with this thread.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

British is very similar to the Hebrew words for Covenant Man..

B'rit Ish are Hebrew words for Covenant and Man

I did a quick search on Google (since apparently you couldn't be bothered) - I didn't find the words "British", "B'ritish" or "B'rit Ish" in hebrew dictionaries or lexicons anywhere.

Interestingly I did find an article on The Jewish Daily Forward which says the phrase "man of the covenant" is actually Ish brit. "Ish" itself is simply another word for man, which is where words like Scot-ish, Ir-ish, Pol-ish and Span-ish come from. Other sources (link) say that the -ish suffix either came from Greek or German, but not Hebrew.

"Brit" or "bris" in Hebrew means covenant, but the Celts also had the word "brit", which means light-coloured or speckled (link). The celts called people from Briton "Brettas", others did not. The ancient Greeks knew us as "Prettanoi" which means tattooed people.

This thread makes baby Jesus cry

If baby Jesus did actually cry everytime that phrase was used we'd have a complete wuss for a Messiah. The Bible says Jesus actually had a spine.

 

[dagelos]

I've never understood why people try defending the Bible by saying it's wrong ...


The Bible says the Hebrews wandered the land for thrity-eight years before entering the land of Canaan, which is in the Middle-East. Sparta is on one of the Greek islands. You're mixing up two completely different places.


"B'ritish" is not a Hebrew word and Britian is mentioned nowhere in the Bible. Saying "they would occupy isles far off" is so vague. How do you know they weren't talking about Hawaii or Japan?

Sources please.

The Bible is not wrong.


Look at the Covenants-it is a simple form of deduction,try using it.

Abraham was to be a father of many nations,the Europeans countries are many nations.

Genesis 17:4-6:4As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. 5Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
6And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.


Read the Genealogy of Queen Elizabeth 2 - It goes back to King David.


Genealogy -- Adam, King David, the Queen


Kings and Queens come out of European nations.


Even the flags of European nations are in the form of a cross.

If the Ten Tribes have disappeared, the literal fulfilment of the prophecies would be impossible; if they have not disappeared, obviously they must exist under a different name.

TRIBES, LOST TEN - JewishEncyclopedia.com