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Too much mess!

First, I think oneposter here is just trying to muddle the whole thread by arguing about everything that is posted, and perhaps not a believer. Been there, done that.





But to answer a few questions:
  1. Jesus celebrated the Passover, hence he was Jewish.
  2. Seth replaced Abel in the line of succession, not Cain, thereby making him the line that the Messiah would come from. Not all sons were named in lines of successions anyway.
  3. To say Eve was pregnant by another man is almost sacreligious.
  4. Christianity is not for whites only, that is just the stupidest remark I have ever heard. The first Christians were Jewish. Rome was used as a vehicle to get the message to the rest of the world.
  5. Many Christians are practicing Jewish ceremonies and feasts but they do not know it, many Jewish people are glorifying Christ without knowing it.
  6. Plants are monochotomous, animals are dichotomous, humans are trichotomous. Plants do not have blood, animals do not have spirits. The life (all living) is about humans, nothing else. So to say we are related to animals is ridiculous.
  7. Who cares when the term "Jew" came into existence.
  8. If the rapture happens or not doesn't matter, it's what happens after the "rapture" that people need to worry about.
  9. There was no neanderthal, simple enough to understand.
  10. Yahweh is God- Jehovah.
  11. People of long ago were named for where they were from, what they were, and what their personality was like, Adam was named Adam because he was taken from the ground and named man by God.
Case closed. Thanks for playing. At this point this thread has gotten too weird.
 
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Too much mess!

First, I think oneposter here is just trying to muddle the whole thread by arguing about everything that is posted, and perhaps not a believer. Been there, done that.





But to answer a few questions:
  1. Jesus celebrated the Passover, hence he was Jewish.
  2. Seth replaced Abel in the line of succession, not Cain, thereby making him the line that the Messiah would come from. Not all sons were named in lines of successions anyway.
  3. To say Eve was pregnant by another man is almost sacreligious.
  4. Christianity is not for whites only, that is just the stupidest remark I have ever heard. The first Christians were Jewish. Rome was used as a vehicle to get the message to the rest of the world.
  5. Many Christians are practicing Jewish ceremonies and feasts but they do not know it, many Jewish people are glorifying Christ without knowing it.
  6. Plants are monochotomous, animals are dichotomous, humans are trichotomous. Plants do not have blood, animals do not have spirits. The life (all living) is about humans, nothing else. So to say we are related to animals is ridiculous.
  7. Who cares when the term "Jew" came into existence.
  8. If the rapture happens or not doesn't matter, it's what happens after the "rapture" that people need to worry about.
  9. There was no neanderthal, simple enough to understand.
  10. Yahweh is God- Jehovah.
  11. People of long ago were named for where they were from, what they were, and what their personality was like, Adam was named Adam because he was taken from the ground and named man by God.
Case closed. Thanks for playing. At this point this thread has gotten too weird.
1) Celebrating Passover does not make one Jewish.
3) is a non sequitor
4) Who said the first Christians were Jewish? Got proof?
Jews follow Judaism. Where you get this stuff?
7) I care when the term Jew came into existence. It means a great deal if one is deceived by Jews. The term Jew had been skewed and misused by ... Jews.
8) Adam actually comes from the words" one that blushes in the face"
Not every human is able to blush.
 
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Could we drop the racism plz
 
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1) Celebrating Passover does not make one Jewish.
3) is a non sequitor
4) Who said the first Christians were Jewish? Got proof?
Jews follow Judaism. Where you get this stuff?
7) I care when the term Jew came into existence. It means a great deal if one is deceived by Jews. The term Jew had been skewed and misused by ... Jews.
8) Adam actually comes from the words" one that blushes in the face"
Not every human is able to blush.
  1. He also taught in the Temple, not just a temple, THEE Temple. Look for the rules of the temple and ask again. And while He was there He taughty Torah. He was born in the House of Judah. He was taken to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover as a child and adult and observed Succot, Feast of Dedictaion as well. Jewish people, even some leaders called Him Rabbi. He taught to keep ther Commandments. He wore a tzitzit. When question about life He quoted the Torah. When He died He was brought forth to the Sanhedrin.
  2. Agreed?
  3. Someone said the decendants of Eve were not Adam's they were another man's, so that proved there were other people on the earth. A statement that is utterly igonroant.
  4. Uh...his disciples...like Andrew who said we have found the Messiah...so since he was Jewish that is what he was looking for.
  5. agreed?
  6. agreed?
  7. Fine, then it came from the tribe of Judah, but so what?
  8. Maybe it means it had color of blood in his flesh making him appear red. Either way he was still the first man---adamah.
You are all ignoring the first rule which is context and I am ashamed of you all. The murder of Able took place in a relatively modern, sophisticated society.
Not igonoring the first "rule", just don't believe it. There is still no proof, except on wikipedia that this is accurate. It is purely opinionated and flawed/biased science that claims that.
 
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How did you determine this and who were the people in the sophisticated society?
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Genesis chapter 4

"13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive (who was he hiding from if there weren't other people?) and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. (Other people + death penalty for murder + legal system.)

15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. (Other people)

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD (pagans), and dwelt in the land of Nod (this was the Kenite tribe - Jewish Encyclopedia) on the east of Eden.

17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (Cain had a wife who wasn't his mother, and cities were built for people.)

18And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

19And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

20And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. (They were tent dwellers and farmers rather than hunter gatherers.)

21And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. (Early man did not have sophisticated musical instruments.)

22And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah. (Brass and iron, this is the bronze age.)

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  1. He also taught in the Temple, not just a temple, THEE Temple. Look for the rules of the temple and ask again. And while He was there He taughty Torah. He was born in the House of Judah. He was taken to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover as a child and adult and observed Succot, Feast of Dedictaion as well. Jewish people, even some leaders called Him Rabbi. He taught to keep ther Commandments. He wore a tzitzit. When question about life He quoted the Torah. When He died He was brought forth to the Sanhedrin.
  2. Agreed?
  3. Someone said the decendants of Eve were not Adam's they were another man's, so that proved there were other people on the earth. A statement that is utterly igonroant.
  4. Uh...his disciples...like Andrew who said we have found the Messiah...so since he was Jewish that is what he was looking for.
  5. agreed?
  6. agreed?
  7. Fine, then it came from the tribe of Judah, but so what?
  8. Maybe it means it had color of blood in his flesh making him appear red. Either way he was still the first man---adamah.
Not igonoring the first "rule", just don't believe it. There is still no proof, except on wikipedia that this is accurate. It is purely opinionated and flawed/biased science that claims that.
So he taught in the temple, how does that make one Jew?
Where does it say Christ was born in the house of Judah?
He was born in the land of Judah. He was of the lineage of Levi like his cousin John and later adopted by Joseph who was from the line of Judah. Being a Jew does not mean one is from the tribe of Judah.
While it's true Seth replaced Abel it still never mentioned Cain as a son.
The passover and Succot was a Hebrew/Israelite feast and not necessarily a Jewish thing. Christ told them not to call him or any man Rabbi. You're confusing Jews with Hebrews and Israelites because they have led you and most people to such false conclusions. Tzitzit does not make one Jewish.

Show me where scriptures say Yeshua was a Jew

IF you're gonna insult me with words like utterly ignorant yu shooold lern to spel da wurd ignorant. Thanks you very much for that.. you got me laughing.

There is other reasons I claim there were others here and not by the logic you have deduced.

Here is one reason... Cain went into the Land of Nod, meaning nomads. Who were the nomads? And he built a city there. You don't build a city for 2 people plus your offspring that you have later. He feared the people may kill him for his crime against Abel. HE were these people he feared?

Hidden within the scriptures is a certain creature of the field who had hands and feet and were able to repent like other men. These creatures or beast of the field were created on the 5th day. Moses talked to these creatures and warned them along with Hebrews not to put their hands on the temple mound or they would die. The creatures even fasted and wore sackcloth in repentance of their sins along side the Hebrews. Science has good evidence that not all men came about at the same time. Scriptures say that Yahweh sent these creatures to Nimrod to help build the great city of Babel. Should I apologize if the truth is uncomfortable to some or do we just rewrite the scriptures to our liking?

You have been misled like so many into believing the great deception that Yeshua was Jewish. Show me the scriptural proof.


Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:

Everyone should ask themselves how has that old serpent has tricked themselves and the rest of the world? You do believe the scriptures?


Fine, then it came from the tribe of Judah, but so what?
Because the important thing to see here is that not all Judeans were of Judah and the proof is all through scriptures once you open your eyes to this you will see it more clearly.

King Herod was Idumean JEW who was a antiChrist

An Idumean was a son of Esua whom Yah has indignation for ever.
Kenites were of the same lineage out of Canaan and they became Scribes and Pharasees. They had no part in the promises of Abraham and were mixed blooded.
Christ told them they were not of Abraham or they would do the works of Abraham. These sons of Esau were never to be allowed in the congregation of Yahweh, ever! But they slipped in and were called Judeans too. They perverted the laws Yahweh and twisted the religion to a new religion called Judaism today. They were not related to Christi or King David. There offspring of serpents as Christ and John the baptist called them admitted they they had never been in bondage to any man. Yet it was to far back the real Judeans of Judah were in bondage in Babylon and much earlier were enslaved in Egypt for 400 years. Wouldn't a child of Judah know his family was enslaved for many years?

It's the tell tale signs you need to see here.
The logical course will provide you with the truth that Yahweh has allowed to be hidden from most people eyes.

The fact is Ashkenazi Jews have admitted that they has no ties to old Israel. These sons of Japeth converted to the evil religion of Kenites and Idumeans hundreds of years ago and they have stolen the land from other people while ignorant Christians say they must bless Israel or be cursed. the true Israel has already blessed the entire world with the gospel of their kinsman redeemer Yeshua ha'Mashiach and many great technological inventions and they have fulfilled all the promises to Abraaham. And it was not the Jews who have not had many nations come out of their loins. The first promise to Abraham.


Will the real Israelites please stand up!
I am one of those






Here is biblical proof of those making false claims as the Christian world slumbers!!!



(Ezekiel 36:5)
"Therefore, thus saith the LORD GOD, surely in the fire of my Jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all IDUMEA, WHICH HAVE APPIOINTED MY LAND INTO THEIR POSSESSION, with the joy of all their heart with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey (price)."


"Son of man, thy brethren, the men of thy Kindred, and all of the House of Israel wholly, are they unto whom the inhabitants (JEWS) of Jerusalem have said, "GET YOU(ISRAEL) FAR FROM THE LORD; UNTO US (Edomites) IS THIS LAND (JUDEA) GIVEN IN POSSESSION." (Ezekiel 11:15)


Edomites took over the land long ago and then today.
And we Christians are too ignorant to know the truth..




Rev 2:9 I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews(Judeans), and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.



Satan sits in Jerusalem and his religion is Judaism



"Edom is in modern Jewry." —The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol.5, p.41


Think on these things. Need more my brother?
Oh the mysteries that Yahweh gave us.
Can we unravel them?
.Oh the

Think on
 
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Genesis chapter 4

"13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive (who was he hiding from if there weren't other people?) and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. (Other people + death penalty for murder + legal system.)

15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. (Other people)

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD (pagans), and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. (Cain had a wife who wasn't his mother, and cities were built for people.)

18And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

19And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.

20And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. (They were tent dwellers and farmers rather than hunter gatherers.)

21And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. (Early man did not have sophisticated musical instruments.)

22And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah. (Brass and iron, this is the bronze age.)

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I agree that there were other people. I wanted you to provide proof for others here.

The weapons of war and instruments were given to the sons of Cain by evil angels according to the book of Jasper or the book of Adam and Eve.

Noah had to have some pretty good tools in order to build a huge boat with a huge cargo.

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Because the righteous line starts with Seth, not Cain.

That interpretation requires Eve to be pregnant from another man; and I won't even dignify that with a comment.

Here are the two lines:

1. Adam → Cain → Enoch → Irad → Mehujael → Methusael → Lamech -- (Genesis 4).

2. Adam → Seth → Enos → Cainan → Maleleel → Jared → Enoch -- (Luke 3).

Guess which line Jesus came from? not to mention Noah?
You added the Adam to Cain portion. It was not written like that.
 
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And I'll say it again: Jesus was specifically from the tribe of Judah, which makes Him a Jew from the Jews -- or, better yet, King of the Jews.
Show us where the scriptures says Yeshua was from the tribe of Judah? Certainly he was born in Judea and then moved on but his cousin and his Mom was from Levi.


Shows us also where it says that that the tribe of Judah were called Jews.


The term 'Jew' is believed to be coined by Josephus and was not a term used during Christ days. Jew came to mean many things including, one who lives in Judea, one born in Judea or one born in in the tribe of Judah and later one that is a follower of the perverted religion called Judaism.

Many Jews today admit they have no ties to old Israel.

You just swallowing lies from ignorant preachers like most of us did.
Here is your wake up call


Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”

— 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars).

Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23:
"JEWS BEGAN IN THE 19TH CENTURY TO CALL THEMSELVES HEBREWS AND ISRAELITES IN 1860".


"Edom is in modern Jewry." —The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition, Vol.5, p.41


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You see Esau is doing exactly what he vowed to do...
To steal his inheritance back at any cost and even if it means killing his brother Jacob
. He whom Yahweh has indignation forever, those antichrist Edomites sit on Yahwehs throne proclaiming themselves to be God.



Rev 2:9 I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews(Judaeans), and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

What people attend a synagogue?


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I don't know where you're getting your information, but I happen to have a digitally remastered 1st edition 1611 KJV, and here is the first time "Jew" appears in the Scriptures:

Extract from the link.....

When, in 1604, James VI, King of Scotland became King James I of England, the first ruler of Great Britain and Ireland, he ruled a nation in religious and political turmoil. And, when a leading Puritan spokesman, Dr John Reynolds, proposed that a new English Bible be issued in honour of the new king, James, saw this as an opportunity to bring about a unity with the church service in Presbyterian Scotland and Episcopal England. The redaction began in 1604 and was completed and published in 1611 and this the new English Bible became known as the "Authorised Version" because its making was authorised by King James. This "Authorised Version" became the "Official Bible of England" and the only Bible of the Anglican church. There have been several revisions of the King James Bible in 1615, 1629, 1638, 1762 and 1769 with the most substantive changes occurring in the eighteenth century. Then, Dr Thomas Paris (1762) published an extensive revision at Cambridge while Dr Benjamin Blayney did the same at Oxford (1769). Blayney's redactions included much modernisation of spelling, punctuation, and expression, but, in which the exact words in the 1611 Bible first edition are used. It is this 1769 update by Blayney that is the basis of the modern King James Bible. Also, since 1885, 14 books representing the Apocrypha were "officially" removed from it. These Apocryphal books were included at the insistence of the king and, unlike the Rheims-Douai and other Roman Catholic Bibles that scattered them throughout the Old Testament, were placed between the Testaments.

Consequently, any modern, so-called "1611 Authorised King James Version" available today is NOT a facsimile of the original 1611 "Authorised Version" but a copy of the 1769 revision. Even those editions that may even proclaim "1611" in the frontispiece to promote sales are deceptions, for, they too are simply modern print runs of the Blayney's 1769 edition. These are editions in which the original text and words of the "1611 Authorised King James Version" have been altered with spellings revised and some words changed in almost every printing done since 1769 and, also, with fourteen entire books plus extra prefatory features removed from almost every printing done since 1885. To get an original, un-redacted "1611 Authorised King James Version" is more problematic and far more expensive. Originals are rare and eminently collectible and fetch huge prices while facsimiles and exact photographic facsimile edition are less exorbitant but still expensive.
 
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Too much mess!

First, I think oneposter here is just trying to muddle the whole thread by arguing about everything that is posted, and perhaps not a believer. Been there, done that.





But to answer a few questions:
  1. Jesus celebrated the Passover, hence he was Jewish.
  2. Seth replaced Abel in the line of succession, not Cain, thereby making him the line that the Messiah would come from. Not all sons were named in lines of successions anyway.
  3. To say Eve was pregnant by another man is almost sacreligious.
  4. Christianity is not for whites only, that is just the stupidest remark I have ever heard. The first Christians were Jewish. Rome was used as a vehicle to get the message to the rest of the world.
  5. Many Christians are practicing Jewish ceremonies and feasts but they do not know it, many Jewish people are glorifying Christ without knowing it.
  6. Plants are monochotomous, animals are dichotomous, humans are trichotomous. Plants do not have blood, animals do not have spirits. The life (all living) is about humans, nothing else. So to say we are related to animals is ridiculous.
  7. Who cares when the term "Jew" came into existence.
  8. If the rapture happens or not doesn't matter, it's what happens after the "rapture" that people need to worry about.
  9. There was no neanderthal, simple enough to understand.
  10. Yahweh is God- Jehovah.
  11. People of long ago were named for where they were from, what they were, and what their personality was like, Adam was named Adam because he was taken from the ground and named man by God.
Case closed. Thanks for playing. At this point this thread has gotten too weird.

Passover was an Israelite festival.(Exodus 12)
Jewish is only mentioned once in the New Testament and it does not describe Israel.(Titus 1:14)
Read the text,origin of the word Jew.
The word Jew was not in the original English Douay Rheims Bible or 1611 KJV but was added in on the 18th century revision.
 
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Passover was an Israelite festival.(Exodus 12)
Jewish is only mentioned once in the New Testament and it does not describe Israel.(Titus 1:14)
Read the text,origin of the word Jew.
The word Jew was not in the original English Douay Rheims Bible or 1611 KJV but was added in on the 18th century revision.
And to add to this comment on Titus 1:14

G2451
Ἰουδαΐκός
Ioudaikos
ee-oo-dah-ee-kos'
From G2453; Judaic, that is, resembling a Judaean: - Jewish.


Ioudaikos is Jewish -- the counterfeit Judaean

Ioudaios is Judean.

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Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish* fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

* Ioudaikos

A wake up call is in order

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And to add to this comment on Titus 1:14

G2451
Ἰουδαΐκός
Ioudaikos
ee-oo-dah-ee-kos'
From G2453; Judaic, that is, resembling a Judaean: - Jewish.


Ioudaikos is Jewish -- the counterfeit Judaean

Ioudaios is Judean.
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Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish* fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

* Ioudaikos
A wake up call is in order.


Wasn't Jesus a Rabbi?

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Yeshua said "call no man Rabbi"
Matthew 23:8

So the answer is "NO"

So what's all this then

And Jesus answered and said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he said, “Rabbi, what is it?” (Luke 7:40)​
A lawyer asked him a question to test him: “Rabbi, what is the greatest commandment in the Torah?” (Matthew 22:35-36)​
And behold, a [rich] man came up to him and said, “Rabbi, what good thing must I do to have eternal life?” (Matthew 19:16)​
And someone in the crowd said to him, “Rabbi, order my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” (Luke 12:13)​
And some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to him, “Rabbi, rebuke your disciples.” (Luke 19:39)​
Some of the Sadducees came up to him…and they asked him, saying, “Rabbi….” (Luke 20:27-28)

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So what's all this then
And Jesus answered and said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he said, “Rabbi, what is it?” (Luke 7:40)​
A lawyer asked him a question to test him: “Rabbi, what is the greatest commandment in the Torah?” (Matthew 22:35-36)​
And behold, a [rich] man came up to him and said, “Rabbi, what good thing must I do to have eternal life?” (Matthew 19:16)​
And someone in the crowd said to him, “Rabbi, order my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” (Luke 12:13)​
And some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to him, “Rabbi, rebuke your disciples.” (Luke 19:39)​
Some of the Sadducees came up to him…and they asked him, saying, “Rabbi….” (Luke 20:27-28)

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Many of the translations use the word Teacher in most of those instances

Teacher and Master were often called the same but Master is the word Christ asked them not to call a man.
I doubt he would rebuke them for calling men teachers.


But calling a teacher a master was a habit and I would guess Christ didn't get on them for it constantly..


1an you missed an important note about the use of the word Jewish in Titus.

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Many of the translations use the word Teacher in most of those instances

Teacher and Master were often called the same but Master is the word Christ asked them not to call a man.
I doubt he would rebuke them for calling men teachers.


But calling a teacher a master was a habit and I would guess Christ didn't get on them for it constantly..


1an you missed an important note about the use of the word Jewish in Titus..



I'm not having that paltry excuse, and I don't like you twisting scripture either, you did it before when you misquoted Matt 23:8 it should read

"But you (the disciples) be not called Rabbi: for one is your Teacher (Rabbi), even Christ; and all you are brothers."

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Goodness, this thread went downhill pretty fast. :p Quick reply -

1. Jesus was circumcised. He celebrated the Passover. He taught in a synagogue. He was referred to as "Rabbi". The wrote "King of the Jews" on his cross. Hebrews 7:14 says he was a descendant of Judah. Jesus was undeniably jewish.

2. The name "Adam" means "to be red" and it also means "man". However it is related to the words adamah (which means "ground" or "earth") and adamu (which means "to make"). Taken altogether it means "the man made out of red earth". Presumably the first time he blushed is when he realized he was naked. :D

3. Christianity was only a "white religion" in the sense that most of the people who practiced it were Europeans. This isn't the case any more. People of all coloured can become Christians, hence it cannot be called a white religion.
 
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