Does Cain’s punishment support evolution?

[dagelos]

It's not an issue that pertains to whether I am saved.

Adam been the first man is not an issue?

What should be an issue for Christians? If there were a list of things Christians should believe,should they believe Adam was a literal man who existed on earth?

 

[dagelos]

What part of Genesis 3:20 do you not understand?

New International Version (©1984)
Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then the man--Adam--named his wife Eve, because she would be the mother of all who live.
English Standard Version (©2001)
The man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Adam named his wife Eve [Life] because she became the mother of every living person.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
American King James Version
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
American Standard Version
And the man called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And Adam called the name of his wife Eve: because she was the mother of all the living.
Darby Bible Translation
And Man called his wife's name Eve; because she is the mother of all living.
English Revised Version
And the man called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Webster's Bible Translation
And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. World English Bible
The man called his wife Eve, because she was the mother of all living. Young's Literal Translation
And the man calleth his wife's name Eve: for she hath been mother of all living.

Well,animals and plants were living,does that mean they descended from Adam and Eve?

''Let the earth bring forth'' (Genesis 1:11-12)

Also...(Genesis 1:20-25)

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

I know it's been a few pages but I'll reply anyway:

Oh,really.
So where does it state everyone came from Adam?
It's racist to say Christianity is a white religion when it is?
...Christianity is a Religion of the Europeans,they believe it predominately.
So how is it wrong to say Christianity is not a white Religion?

It is racist to say Christianity is a white religion when it is not. The only way Christianity was ever a "white religion" is that for much of our history, almost all Christians were European. That was true once, but not today.

In terms of sheer numbers, there are probably less Christians in Western countries than there are in non-Western countries - our religion may be declining in Europe and the USA, but on a global scale it's growing.

And of course we started in the Middle East, not Europe.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

If Christianity came out of Judaism why don't Christians do anything Jewish or adopt Jewish practices?

I guess you're not familiar with Messianic Jews.

 

[AV1611VET]

As long as God's Church is on the earth, there is neither Jew nor Gentile.

The book of Revelation pertains to the Jews on the earth, after God's Church has been raptured.

 

[Isreal]

The Genesis account does not exclude the possibility that:
a) Abel had children before he died
b) Cain already had other brothers and sisters
c) Cain was worried about people from future generations in his family who had not even been born yet
d) Cain was concerned his parents might take revenge into their own hands

Since Cain could have been referring to one or all of these possibilities, I still don't see that the scripture provides any support for evolution. Thank you for explaining the reasoning of those that do. You are welcome to debate my reasoning if you wish.

Abel would have been written in Adams geneology had he had children. It's pretty safe to say he did not.

b) Cain may have had a sister. I doubt it.
I think Cain was Eves first child.
You're assuming that Cain's father was Adam yet scripture never indicates that. Cain would have been written in Adams genealogy if he were born of Adam.

There is the possibility that there were other people on Earth.
There is the possibility that Cain was worried about other people in the world taking revenge on him for his sin.

 

[AV1611VET]

You're assuming that Cain's father was Adam yet scripture never indicates that.

Genesis 4:1a And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain,

 

[dagelos]

I know it's been a few pages but I'll reply anyway:


It is racist to say Christianity is a white religion when it is not. The only way Christianity was ever a "white religion" is that for much of our history, almost all Christians were European. That was true once, but not today.

In terms of sheer numbers, there are probably less Christians in Western countries than there are in non-Western countries - our religion may be declining in Europe and the USA, but on a global scale it's growing.

And of course we started in the Middle East, not Europe.

But lost Israel migrated into Europe,the remnant of the Assyrian Captives.

....You stated Christianity was a White Religion when you said ''that for much of our history, almost all Christians were European''

Are you going to say all Europeans back then were racist because it was a White Religion?

HISTORIC PROOF OF ISRAEL'S MIGRATIONS - Historic Proof of Israel's Migrations

Christianity - Religion of the West by Revilo P. Oliver - Christianity Religion of the West

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[Isreal]

I guess you're not familiar with Messianic Jews.

The term Jew isn't even a term used in the old history.
It is believed to be a word coined by Josephus.

Let us call them Judeans since that is what they were called and then we should also see that nearly 90% of those calling themselves Jews today had no trace of bloodline to the Judeans of old. Judeans were known as those living in the land of and not necessarily of bloodline of King David or Judah.

You will never find the scripture that proves Christ was a Jew as many Christians today falsely believe. Pilate said, concerning Christ, This man is a Galilean, send him to Herod who is over Galilee.
Galileans and Judeans were very different and the dialects were obvious and noted in the scriptures.

Kenites who were forbidden to be in the congregation of Yah had slipped in and became Scribes and Pharasees and perverted the Laws of Yahweh. It became known as Pharaseism and later Judaism.
No, Christianity did not come about from Judaism but Judaism was a twisted version of the religion of Moses and the prophets.

 

[dagelos]

I guess you're not familiar with Messianic Jews.

They sound familiar.

Jews who believe in Jesus?

How does that make Christianity come out of Judaism?

Matthew 15:2:Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.

The Tradition of the Elders was the Babylonian Talmud.

Stephen S. Wise, deceased, and formerly Chief Rabbi of the United States stated, "The return from Babylon and the adoption of the Babylonian Talmud marked the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism. "

The Talmud was formed in Babylon,so how could Judaism be the Religion of the Bible?

 

[AV1611VET]

You will never find the scripture that proves Christ was a Jew as many Christians today falsely believe.

John 4:7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
John 4:8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

 

[dagelos]

As long as God's Church is on the earth, there is neither Jew nor Gentile.

The book of Revelation pertains to the Jews on the earth, after God's Church has been raptured.

The Rapture is a false doctrine.


Google - the rapture of the wicked stephen E Jones
The first google result...

The Rapture - Scriptural Fact or Man-Made Fiction - The Rapture

 

[AV1611VET]

The Rapture is a false doctrine.

No, it isn't.

Google - the rapture of the wicked stephen E Jones
The first google result...

The Rapture - Scriptural Fact or Man-Made Fiction - The Rapture

Is that were you get your theology?

 

[dagelos]

John 4:7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
John 4:8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

JUDEAEN.

2453. Ioudaios ee-oo-dah'-yos from 2448 (in the sense of 2455 as a country); Judaean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah:--Jew(-ess), of Judaea.

Judea was the geography/national.

For example....

Matthew 4:25:And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan.

 

[dagelos]

No, it isn't.

Is that were you get your theology?

Why don't you prove the rapture?

 

[AV1611VET]

You will never find the scripture that proves Christ was a Jew as many Christians today falsely believe.

John 4:7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.
John 4:8 (For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)
John 4:9 Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

JUDEAEN.

2453. Ioudaios ee-oo-dah'-yos from 2448 (in the sense of 2455 as a country); Judaean, i.e. belonging to Jehudah:--Jew(-ess), of Judaea.

Judea was the geography/national.

For example....

Matthew 4:25:And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan.

I wasn't aware Wrong's Concordance was considered Scripture.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why don't you prove the rapture?

It's not my job to prove the Rapture, chief; I'm a dispensationalist.

 

[1an]

Genesis 4:1a And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain,

It reads like normal everyday family life in a farming community.

.

 

[dagelos]

I wasn't aware Wrong's Concordance was considered Scripture.

How do you want Jew to mean?

Do you mean Jew as in Judeaen? belonging to the Tribe of Judah or someone who practices Judaism and follows the Talmud?

Strong's Concordance contains the meanings of words,do you take words at face value?

You can't forget that words back then may have meant something different today....

John 4:9:Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

What type of Jew did she mean?

If you read further on...

John 4:22:Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

Do you take that to mean modern Jews?

 

[dagelos]

It's not my job to prove the Rapture, chief; I'm a dispensationalist.

Surely,if you think it is not false you have some passages to prove it is fact?