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Does Cain’s punishment support evolution?

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Keachian

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Yep sure let's look at 21st century differences and wonder what's going on, both have changed in a huge way over the past 20 centuries, quite a lot of the Jewish practices we see today are a result of changes in the middle ages, there are also many different forms of Christianity that are very different to your small limited view of Christianity (that it is western and evangelical.
 
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You mention that the first Christian Pope, the apostle Peter, was of Jewish descent and I wondered what you thought of the suggestion that some of the ritual found in the Catholic Church owed its presence to the influence of the Jewish Priesthood?

What do you think?

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You mention that the first Christian Pope was a converted Jew and I wondered what you thought of the suggestion that some of the ritual found in the Catholic Church had its origin in the Jewish Priests?
Maybe, I haven't really looked that much into either two strains of ritual. The only leader of the Early Church that was anywhere close to being a Priest was Paul, but then Pharisees are rather different to priests.
 
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Maybe, I haven't really looked that much into either two strains of ritual. The only leader of the Early Church that was anywhere close to being a Priest was Paul, but then Pharisees are rather different to priests.



I was struck with the similarity of the Levite Priest and the Catholic Priest, and then I think of Jesus and the simplicity of the Christian message and its emphasis on purity of heart rather than outward appearance.






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So the only evidence for your claim Cain married a member of his own family is a verse you cannot take literally?
 
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Might be a worry now, but I can't imagine that a yet to be conceived baby brother and what he might do in 60 years would be of much a concern to a 12 year old killer who had only just washed his sister's blood off his hands. It was being sent into exile that had him terrified of whoever might find him, he hadn't feared for his life while he could still live at home with his family.
 
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I have a feeling Mr. Cain knew more about the situation he was in than we do.
 
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Wow, I leave for ten hours and get 4 more pages to read. So little time so much to respond to...


1an,
You know I have nothing agianst you but we will always disagree on this matter. The info you posted here is purely circumstancial and speculative. It can never be proven since there are no written accounts of a time before Adam. If they claim to have a creation story of their then it is a myth/legeng and not true. This is border line what science does but they try and use flawed data to prove it.
 
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This will be me nit-picking but its not like that because there is written record even before Columbus. But I do get your point.
That is a different subject. If people did live 900 years for generations that would throw the age of the earth back even further.
WHy would it? If you run the time line the Bible lays out for us it does add up to around 5800 years or so. As time went on more diseases, low gene pools, and war happened on the earth shortening life spans. It does add up.
 
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I have a feeling Mr. Cain knew more about the situation he was in than we do.

And he had to live with that decision a lot longer....
 
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And he had to live with that decision a lot longer....
Indeed -- and I don't think he was planning to live in isolation.

Sooner or later, he knew someone was going to come along.
 
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Descendents from Adam and Eve?

Seth was the substitute for Abel(Genesis 4:25)

The rest of the children were born in Adam's later years,so how could the everyone be descendents of Adam and Eve?
Where does the Bible say all men came from Adam and Eve?
What part of Genesis 3:20 do you not understand?

New International Version (©1984)
Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then the man--Adam--named his wife Eve, because she would be the mother of all who live.
English Standard Version (©2001)
The man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Now the man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Adam named his wife Eve [Life] because she became the mother of every living person.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
American King James Version
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
American Standard Version
And the man called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And Adam called the name of his wife Eve: because she was the mother of all the living.
Darby Bible Translation
And Man called his wife's name Eve; because she is the mother of all living.
English Revised Version
And the man called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Webster's Bible Translation
And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. World English Bible
The man called his wife Eve, because she was the mother of all living. Young's Literal Translation
And the man calleth his wife's name Eve: for she hath been mother of all living.
 
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So the only evidence for your claim Cain married a member of his own family is a verse you cannot take literally?
No. Just not complete. It had to be a member of his own family in one way, shape, or form. Just like you and I are somehow related.
 
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No. Just not complete. It had to be a member of his own family in one way, shape, or form. Just like you and I are somehow related.
All life on earth is related, I don't know how that helps you though. If your incomplete meaning are going to exclude other animals from 'all living' which is the normal meaning of the phrase, why not exclude other humans alive when Adam said that too? If you can't take it literally, and 'every living creature' is the literal meaning of the term, then we have to look at a range of different meanings to the phrase. If you pick one non literal meaning an insist it has to be that meaning, you choice is pretty arbitrary and doesn't provide any basis for a claim Cain must have married in his family
 
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The maternal principle within God (taken from Adam who is in the image of God) is the mother of all living. It is taken through the rib and manifested in matter as the human female at that point of creation.
 
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If Christianity came out of Judaism why don't Christians do anything Jewish or adopt Jewish practices?
 
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