i dont think baptism saves. i think that its just a symbol like communion is. what are ur thoughts???
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Originally posted by new2calvin
i dont think baptism saves. i think that its just a symbol like communion is. what are ur thoughts???
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Baptism is not a requirement for salvation, nor a requirment for justification.
No problem dude, what did Christ himself say condemns and saves you? John 3. faith.
If baptism was so important he would have said it explicitly
I agree, but explict statements like the one I told you about in John defintly go the length to clear up an issue
I have thanks, and you must keep that passage in chapter 2 in context with the illistration of a man and a mirror in chapter 1 to clearly understand it.
Works aren't required, they are a natural expression.
I think you need to read what your bible translator says about that passage.
In all fairness it was probably added later.
I do view it as scripture, but I wouldn't build theology on it.
Classic example of adding YOUR thoughts to the text and not letting the text speak for itself.
It is made clear that bapstism isn't required but is a natural tendency of a christian.
Thus why the man on the cross beside Christ was saved but NOT baptised.
I would also ask you to show me where Paul was baptised in scripture or where he claims it in reference to his teachings and authority.