Does a GLOBAL FLOOD truly seem like the BEST explanation for seashells on mountains? (2)

CabVet · May 29, 2013

Loudmouth said:
8 is great.

I don't know about AV, but many believers have a special relationship with the number 9. Here is why.

Lucy Stulz · May 29, 2013

CabVet said:
I don't know about AV, but many believers have a special relationship with the number 9. Here is why.

Oh please, please, please tell me this ISN'T why AV1611VET is obsessed with Pluto. Please!

I think I would rather his obsession with Pluto was just a poorly formed criticism of science based on an obdurate concept that the map is the territory.

pgp_protector · May 29, 2013

Loudmouth said:
8 is great.

Yea but 7 8 9

Strathos · May 29, 2013

CabVet said:
Oh but AV goes one step further. He thinks Adam and Eve spoke KJ era English and that is what will be spoken in heaven.

He does more to distort Scripture than the scientists he accuses of doing so.

AV1611VET · May 29, 2013

Strathos said:
He does more to distort Scripture than the scientists he accuses of doing so.

Really? like distorting "earth" to "eretz", then claiming it's only a section of land that's being referenced?

At least my "distortions" are in English.

Strathos · May 29, 2013

Because the Bible was originally written in English.

Oh wait, you actually believe that...

Joshua0035 · May 30, 2013

Loudmouth said:
When in doubt, just start insulting scientists.

I do not know if he actually made money. But clearly the plan was to sell books in the hope of making money.

Upisoft · May 30, 2013

Yes, it must be global flood. The other explanation is ridiculous. We all know that earthquakes happen and earth moves up and down, but that is just micro-geology. Bottom of the ocean is still bottom of the ocean and doesn't turn into top of a mountain. Have you ever observed that? Macro-geology is a lie.

TLK Valentine · May 30, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Really? like distorting "earth" to "eretz", then claiming it's only a section of land that's being referenced?

At least my "distortions" are in English.

Too bad the Bible isn't.

Split Rock · May 30, 2013

Joshua0035 said:
I do not know if he actually made money. But clearly the plan was to sell books in the hope of making money.

At least he's making money in an honest fashion, instead of selling lies.

Split Rock · May 30, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Really? like distorting "earth" to "eretz", then claiming it's only a section of land that's being referenced?

At least my "distortions" are in English.

How can the original wording be a "distortion?"

AV1611VET · May 30, 2013

Split Rock said:
How can the original wording be a "distortion?"

Ahem ... you have the originals, do you?

And technically, they're called the autographs.

TheBear · May 30, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Split Rock said:

How can the original wording be a "distortion?"

Click to expand...

Ahem ... you have the originals, do you?

Wait. What?

Do you not understand the question, or, are you intentionally moving goalposts?

AV1611VET · May 30, 2013

TheBear said:
Do you not understand the question, or, are you intentionally moving goalposts?

I get it.

Adam wrote it in English.

TheBear · May 30, 2013

Amazing.....

pgp_protector · May 30, 2013

TheBear said:
Amazing.....

Is it really?

Eight Foot Manchild · May 30, 2013

Hilarious is the word I would use. AVET's adversarial relationship with reality on display once again.

Lucy Stulz · May 30, 2013

Joshua0035 said:
I do not know if he actually made money. But clearly the plan was to sell books in the hope of making money.

Ummm, yeah...right.

You do realize the guy was already in a pretty prestigious position to start with, right? Or did you only hear about him because of the Pluto event?

LOL!

PRIOR to 2006 the guy had:

1. Been appointed by the President of the US to serve on the Commission on the Future of the United States Aerospace Industry

2. Been appointed by the President of the US to serve on the President's Commission on Implementation of United States Space Exploration Policy

3. Had hosted a PBS series (Origins)

4. Was awarded the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal (highest civilian honor provided by NASA)

5. Was appointed the director of the Hayden Planetarium

So I'm guessing a few measly book sales weren't going to sway him.

LOL.

PLEASE, if you must come up with ridiculous conspiracy theories, make sure they at least make sense on the basics!!!!

Split Rock · May 30, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Ahem ... you have the originals, do you?

And technically, they're called the autographs.

We have copies closer to the orignial than the KJV1611 is.

AV1611VET said:
I get it.

Adam wrote it in English.

Nonsense. Really. You want to talk about "Basic Doctrine" now?

Strathos · May 30, 2013

Where does this idea even come from?

Adam and Eve spoke 17th century English... and so did the Israelites. And so did Jesus. Despite the fact that all of the records from those times (including the earliest scriptures themselves) were written in the languages that actually existed and were spoken back then.

And 17th century English can be shown to have developed from earlier forms of the language, such as Old English, which were themselves developed from earlier Germanic languages along with many loan words from Latin and such. And after the 17th century the language continued to change.

Yet God arbitrarily chose this one language, spoken by one group of people in one place on Earth (quite a distance from the middle east, too, where the majority of the Bible takes place), and chose the one form of said language that was spoken some 1600 years after the life of Jesus, to be the official language spoken by Himself, the first humans, everyone in the Bible...

When the KJV was first translated the translators even deliberately tried to make the language sound archaic for their own day, as writing it in (was was then) a contemporary dialect would make it seem too casual and lose some of its dignity.

I admit I like the KJV for its poetic language, and its translations are often aesthetically pleasing to me more than other translations, however it is far from the most accurate translation.

What happened to all of these original English scriptures that were apparently later translated into Hebrew, Koine Greek, etc. Are they on Neptune too? Did the KJV translators have a spaceship they used to go get them?

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