Do you want to live in a Christian Theocracy?

[Sopharos]

You know it's past your bedtime when...

The first rejoinder you think of is, "...he poured the giblet gravy."

You think too much, open your mouth.

*pop the pill in*

There you go.

Please, pay no attention to this post. Or less, if possible.

Request DENIED!

 

[Eudaimonist]

I would no more want to live in a Christian theocracy than a secular totalitarian collectivist society.

 

[ChristianCandy]

Webster's Dictionary Definition of "Theocracy":

Government of a state by the immediate direction or administration of God; hence, the exercise of political authority by priests as representing the Deity.

My understanding of a "Theocracy" is God Himself running the gov't, not a society. Example would be in the OT where Moses & Joshua received their direction & guidance from God Himself. God was the government & Moses & Joshua carried out God's direction & communicated God's direction to the people.

(Also remember that the people knew God was with them because He was there as a cloud by day & a pillar of fire by night. There was no doubt that God wasn't there.)


When we get to heaven, we will live again under the direct government of God...a Theocracy.


I would dearly love for God Himself to govern us; all Christians, Jews, aethists, agnostics alike. He (& only He) knows what is best for us & because He is kind & just, we would have the BEST government ever.


Just my views.....

 

[Sopharos]

Like I said, daydreaming =/= reality, the above dictionary definition is daydreaming, Dictionary.com's definition is reality:

the·oc·ra·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-kr-s)
n. pl. the·oc·ra·cies

1. A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.
2. A state so governed.

This means clerics, religious leaders, etc.

Amounts to a dictatorship.

 

[repentandbelieve]

When we get to heaven, we will live again under the direct government of God...a Theocracy.

I agree with you candy. I wouldn't hesitate to vote yes, bring it on, if it was this type of theocracy we were voting on.

But instead we are being asked if we would prefer to live in an "American Christian Theocracy"(whatever that is???). Perhaps an "American Christian Theocracy" is type of government the framers of the constitution had in mind when they wrote the constitution..

I don't trust man enough to vote yes in this election. past history has demonstrated a consistant pattern . That man eventually screws up everything within his control.

Idealistiscally it's a great idea, and with divine intervention it could become a reality. Perhaps in the 1000 yr millenium those who are still alive will see the God theocracy you speak of.

 

[repentandbelieve]

Does "American Christian Theocracy" allow for freedom of religion???

 

[Lotuspetal_uk]

Like I said, daydreaming =/= reality, the above dictionary definition is daydreaming, Dictionary.com's definition is reality:

the·oc·ra·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-kr-s)
n. pl. the·oc·ra·cies

1. A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.
2. A state so governed.

This means clerics, religious leaders, etc.

Amounts to a dictatorship.

I do beg your pardon.

Now that you have clarified your definition of a 'theocracy' I doubt anyone would want to live under a 'dictatorship'.

 

[Lotuspetal_uk]

Daydreaming =/= reality.

You wanna live in a Christian Theocracy? Fine,. But I'm not coming with you.

Cool - Your choice. And by the way your personal definition of what you deem to be daydreaming and reality is duly noted and your personal definition of such is thus respected. I did not come to you with sarcasm, and I would ask that you kindly do the same to Christians here who views may be different to yours.

Sincerely

LP

 

[repentandbelieve]

Yes I agree with LP

 

[Rev. Smith]

Does "American Christian Theocracy" allow for freedom of religion???

I think it would, at first - but the temptation to first go after the cults, as bead for people would be hard to resist (I know it would for me ); which would eventually, I think, lead to supression of most non Christian and even some Christian sects (how long woudl the Catholics be allowed public worhip if the Jones U. folks were in charge?)

 

[Archivist]

I just visited the Witch Museum in Salem, Mass. In the late 1600's hundreds of innocent people were jailed there and twenty were executed by an unchecked theocratic government. If you want to see what terrible things a theocratic government can do in God's name you should visit Salem.

 

[Nathan David]

Amen. I may have mis-interpreted the first post but I took the term theocracy to be a divinely guided government i.e. as in the 1000 yr reign of Messiah. As opposed to a denominational mis-interpretation of G-d's Laws - we'd get it straight from the source so to speak and so it would not be unfair, cruel, nor burdensome.

How would you be able to tell the difference between a divinely guided government and a government that claimed to be divinely guided? That's the problem - humans can lie. Almost all dictators, kings, emperors, and despots have claimed to have God on their side.

 

[Gallego]

Uffffffffff.

The results of the poll are really clear, even for the christians!!! NO WAY!!!!!!!!

 

[Sopharos]

Cool - Your choice. And by the way your personal definition of what you deem to be daydreaming and reality is duly noted and your personal definition of such is thus respected. I did not come to you with sarcasm, and I would ask that you kindly do the same to Christians here who views may be different to yours.

Sincerely

LP

Oh please, just look at Iran as a case study. Okay, it was based on Islam, not Christianity - but the basic model of "theocracy" in the real world stands.

I don't dwell in daydreams. It's a Dictatorship of the Clerics. Simple is that.

 

[Caylin]

I would rather die.

 

[Lotuspetal_uk]

How would you be able to tell the difference between a divinely guided government and a government that claimed to be divinely guided? That's the problem - humans can lie. Almost all dictators, kings, emperors, and despots have claimed to have God on their side.

I agree with you - humans can lie. One would have to test the motives of those who get into power. But since this would be difficult, the only theocracy (divinely guided as per my earlier post) I'd be happy with would only be during the 1000 yr reign of the Messiah.

Anything else I'd be extremely cautious due to past history

 

[Lotuspetal_uk]

Oh please, just look at Iran as a case study. Okay, it was based on Islam, not Christianity - but the basic model of "theocracy" in the real world stands.

I don't dwell in daydreams. It's a Dictatorship of the Clerics. Simple is that.

Again, your personal opinion is duly noted. Simple as that.

 

[Nexus`]

Again, your personal opinion is duly noted. Simple as that.

It's not opinion, it's fact. Iran is a theocracy that is run by extremist clerics.

 

[Lotuspetal_uk]

It's not opinion, it's fact. Iran is a theocracy that is run by extremist clerics.

Nexus, I am not referring to that....

To address your post though, are we referring to any theocracy or as the OP post referred to - a Christian one?

And what did I say relating to man-run "theocracies"? What distinction did I make relating to what some Christians refer to as a 'divine' theocracy?

 

[Archivist]

Nexus, I am not referring to that....

To address your post though, are we referring to any theocracy or as the OP post referred to - a Christian one?

And what did I say relating to man-run "theocracies"? What distinction did I make relating to what some Christians refer to as a 'divine' theocracy?

Then you should have been clear in your post #37!