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Why cant they have gifts without a bubble? The question is do you think Jesus wants us celebrating His holy day by lying to kids? Its a yes or no question.
That is wonderful. Did you ever feel the pressures of society to push Santa on them? It can be hard to combat- I know I felt it and it was a strong force. Just as I can't get anyone on here to say " Yes I think Jesus would want us lying to our kids." And explaining why or " No, Jesus probably would not approve of that would prefer our gift of holiness." Everyone forgets everything we do and say is being recorded by an angel into the book that is our life. We will be held accountable for all of it- so how we celebrate a day that we have devoted in His name in His honor should really be celebrated as if He were sitting right there because He is! If you knew Jesus was coming to your house this Christmas, would you do anything different?
Ever heard of the fallacy: "poisoning the well"?
Poisoning the well - Wikipedia.
this is the question you asked:
That's the first fallacy in your thread, the second would be:
False dilemma - Wikipedia
you than claim there's only two ways to answer (yes or no) to a question that has several different answers to it. So, let's recap: you ask peoples opinions (which actually can't be right or wrong, they're simply an opinion), you frame the question to try and make only one one answer "correct", you claim there's only two ways to answer the question (when there's several). And those are just the opening ones.
But my favorite is this part:
You actually have know idea what how I celebrate Christmas. Or don't. What you do know is: "I believe people should celebrate (or not) however they feel led, and not judge how other people do (or don't) celebrate it." That's it. That's all the information you have about what I believe. OH! I will tell you this much: I'll be drinking coffee no matter what happens. Or doesn't.
tulc(is thinking about getting some more coffee even as he posts this)
I know this but people won't stop celebrating it so I was merely focusing on how they are celebrating it. Christmas was a " ploy" to trick Christians to celebrate their pagan holiday with them.
Maybe we should first establish whether Jesus even wanted a "holy day" to begin with, let alone on December 25th...
This picture is misleading, unless you can confirm that Santa elicits this same response in all children.
No he does not want this. What Jesus require of us is to give up our lives in this world. After we do that, we enter into his body. So he is the head and we are his body , doing his work. There are no days that are more special than the other. Everyday is a Holy day, because we have entered into his rest. Christmas is apart of the world. We are in it not of it.
Your picture is not how most kids react to meeting Santa, and in my experience, greedy kids are usually the result of parents who overindulge and spoil their children.
Thank you for clarifying. However, adults shouldn't go by 7-year-old logic. They need to impart adult logic to the 7-year-olds. Specifically, it sounds like he misspelled Santa and he needs to be reassured that he didn't really write to Satan, and just because the mythical representations of each of them has them wearing red suits doesn't make them anywhere close to being the same. If the school is public, what they can teach about Jesus is going to be limited, but Santa is safe because he's used as a secular symbol for Christmas. Have you taught him about the historical St. Nicholas in an age-appropriate manner?
Ahh! Thank you for admitting it.
And you're right again! I didn't say that.
Ahhh! And you were doing so well, right up until you decided to pretend to paraphrase me with this part.
A more accurate summation would be "don't judge others because they think/celebrate Christmas differently than you do." Because, to be honest, I stopped worrying about how others judge me personally a very long time ago.
Well, once again, to be more accurate I'd say we're back to Romans 14:4 situation:
and I'd say "Santa" would be one of those things it's not any of our business to care/judge about. You don't want to have him as part of your Christmas? Than don't. You do want him as part of it? Have fun. In the end, it's none of our business one way or the other. Our job is to follow the Lord as best we can.
hahaha! Good one! I know its a big bummer but we know Santa is a lie and that the devil is the father of all lies. I don't know how we let him in as a part of the Lords birth but he took over and it is scary. I went in to Michaels, the craft store and the place is decked out with every different kind of ornament, tree, craft, gingerbread house, Santa all over the place. I asked them where their nativity scenes were. The lady took me to a back corner and said " I think we only offered 2 this year." They were in stock- one was the small glass figurines, no manger. The other was larger painted porcelain figurines- no manger. I said. " Wow. That's it? Im sorry, that makes me sad." I fought back tears leaving there and got outside, looked up at the sky and said " I am so sorry." I was apologizing for everyone.
