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Do YOU have a crush on anyone? (31)

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Shadesofgray

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I am sorry to hear that things aren't going that well for you at the momment Cyrus. Dating a 19 year old does have it's challenges because she is still maturing at that age. She's probably not had many if any really real relationships yet. At that age, most girls and guys are still in the state of mind were their expectations of relationships are still pretty unrealistic. They think things will be a certain way, and don't seem to realize that a relationship is going to have comprimises involved because it involves 2 people. It is a very strange request at any rate... I've never met a girl that didn't like being complimented.

Now... I have to say this... reasoning through someone's emotions is really not fair to them. Even if their emotions make no logical sense. The fact is they are feeling a certain way, and they may even realize it's not fair to you but it doesn't matter... they are feeling it right then and right there. Any attempt to reason and show them why their emotions are not fair is just going to make them upset. You need to be sensitive to her... Even if her emotions don't make sense. The time for reasoning will be later when she is more stable, but at that particular momment she needs you to fill a need and you better be able to fill it. The best thing to do in that situation is comfort her if you can, don't fight her on it. If it's about you being busy and not spending enough time with her, not calling her enough, don't argue. Tell her you are sorry and promise to spend more time together or to call more often. Then take a look at what you are doing... are you spending a lot of time on your own? Are you blowing her off a lot lately? Could you spare a couple minutes now and then to give a quick phone call now then between doing other things?

If you can, great! Do make those changes. If you can't, if you are really doing everything you can to make her feel you are always available to her, then reason with her. In my experience, I've learned it makes a huge difference in her happiness and mine, even if I pick up the phone for a few minutes to send a quick text, or talk for 2-5 minutes at least 1-3 times during the work day. I'd challenge you to look at her concerns, and see if there is anything you can do to make her more happy and more of a priority. If you are not willing to do that, or if you'd rather walk away, then maybe that is better. But I can garuntee you, there are a million little things you can do to make her more happy and disolve a lot of the problems. I've learned to make it a point that even when I am busy, I pick up the phone at least once in the middle of it to talk for 5-10 minutes or to send a text or two. When I've been dating someone it's made us both a lot happier.

I don't know if this is the big issue between you two, but it sounds like it may be a part of it. Doing these little things that show you care will often solve 90% of your relationship issues because she won't be questioning just how much you care, or how much you are into her.
 
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Believe you me, I've been involved in many deep relationships; engaged a few times, and never have I ever had a problem with somebody not wanting compliments. That being said, I have also been involved with somebody who demanded much more of my time than was fair for me to have to give; I had to check-in nearly hourly and had little freedom of my own. I'm not saying this is what's happening with my girlfriend right now, but believe me, she fully admits that she's completely demanding and wants, expects even, things done her way almost all the time.

Now, that might be just fine and dandy with you, but that doesn't sit well with me; no matter how brilliant things are between us. She has absolutely no right to demand my time on that level, and I should not have to offer myself in that manner either. I don't need to be babysitting somebody while I have other things that I need to do, nor should I feel as though I've done anything wrong because I was late getting to her (things happen) and if she feels as though I've done her so wrong by her standards; fine. If you can't be reasonable with me, you certainly don't deserve my time. I'm not your husband, I'm not your parents, I'm not a sibling, I'm a boyfriend and that doesn't mean I'm committed to making your every whim spectacular.

As far as my reasoning through her emotions, you'd better believe I can discuss what you're doing to me is irrational; if you're angry, tell me why you're angry and not just be angry at me. If you're sad, tell me why you feel upset and we can discuss things together. If you're feeling crazy, what's making you crazy so I can help you with it.

If you want to pout in a corner about something, go right ahead... but you'd better not expect me to be waiting ever so patiently there for you to come to your senses; I've got things to do and unless you're willing to actually discuss something rationally with me, I don't need the stress at all. Period.

If you must know, as well, she got out of a 3 year relationship awhile ago; so, yeah, she's a little familiar with how relationships go.

She knows how much I enjoy her company when she's not being insane, she even said so while we discussing the fact that I adore her.

Almost word for word:
Her: please stop complimenting me
Me: but it's not meant to be condescending if that's what you're thinking, I say it because I adore you
Her: Well that much is obvious...
 
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I think she feels embarrassed about the attention. She knows you like her and isn't reliant on constant compliments. At least she isn't insecure and needy :).

It seriously isn't something that should worry or irritate you. She was honest with you, would you prefer that she didn't tell you and instead remained annoyed?
 
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Believe you me, I've been involved in many deep relationships; engaged a few times, and never have I ever had a problem with somebody not wanting compliments. That being said, I have also been involved with somebody who demanded much more of my time than was fair for me to have to give; I had to check-in nearly hourly and had little freedom of my own. I'm not saying this is what's happening with my girlfriend right now, but believe me, she fully admits that she's completely demanding and wants, expects even, things done her way almost all the time.

Now, that might be just fine and dandy with you, but that doesn't sit well with me; no matter how brilliant things are between us. She has absolutely no right to demand my time on that level, and I should not have to offer myself in that manner either. I don't need to be babysitting somebody while I have other things that I need to do, nor should I feel as though I've done anything wrong because I was late getting to her (things happen) and if she feels as though I've done her so wrong by her standards; fine. If you can't be reasonable with me, you certainly don't deserve my time. I'm not your husband, I'm not your parents, I'm not a sibling, I'm a boyfriend and that doesn't mean I'm committed to making your every whim spectacular.

Just read this. Yeah that would be annoying.

Maybe confront her and ask her to stop this behaviour. She asked you to change something so do the same back, good luck!
 
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I'll talk to her later today about it, I just couldn't talk to her any longer because that was just not right of her to ask me to deny that part of myself; and I already know why she doesn't like being complimented, and it's understandable to a point.

She used to be a little heavier and people used to make fun of her for it, and now that she's lost the weight and developed more she gets guys hitting on her and she doesn't believe that they really want to know her and only see her body; but, she already knows that I feel the same way about people and knows that I actually like a lot more about her than the outside.

I can't, on any level, agree to not being myself and being expressive with her with words; what am I supposed to do!? Just smile when she makes me feel happy to be with her? I will not.
 
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I'll talk to her later today about it, I just couldn't talk to her any longer because that was just not right of her to ask me to deny that part of myself; and I already know why she doesn't like being complimented, and it's understandable to a point.

I know that I haven't had any relationship experience so I hope you don't mind me commenting on this.

In a relationship you need to make sacrifices for the other person and this is such a small sacrifice to make. If you really do care about her, you would make an effort and give it a go.

You can show your love in other ways anyway.


I can't, on any level, agree to not being myself and being expressive with her with words; what am I supposed to do!? Just smile when she makes me feel happy to be with her? I will not.

She won't want you to stop completely, just tone it down a bit.

If you are really concerned though, ask her why she isn't comfortable with the compliments coming from you?
 
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I know that I haven't had any relationship experience so I hope you don't mind me commenting on this.

In a relationship you need to make sacrifices for the other person and this is such a small sacrifice to make. If you really do care about her, you would make an effort and give it a go.

You can show your love in other ways anyway.

She won't want you to stop completely, just tone it down a bit.

If you are really concerned though, ask her why she isn't comfortable with the compliments coming from you?

It's perfectly fine Becky, you're more than welcome to discuss this with me :)

I understand that sacrifices are necessary, believe me, I was willing to allow her to be mad at me for silly things, I was willing to allow her to pout when I'm late, and I was fine with her not being completely rational (that's just her age "speaking"); however, I will not allow it to be compounded by her additional attitude towards my affection.

You're right that I can show her I care about her in other ways, but I shouldn't have to hold my tongue at all. That's just ridiculous.

Do I care about her? Sure. Do I love her? I haven't been dating her very long, and I've only started to get to know her; that's a pretty giant leap from dating.

And no, she's not asking me to tone it down, she's asking me to stop completely.

I'll ask her why she's bothered by it coming from me, I was thinking I should, but I was a little angry that she was asking me to change myself when she's never had me ask her anything of the sort.
 
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Well, if that's the case as things may be, then I'm willing to bet its her age and her expectations of what a relationship should be. Just because she's had a 3 year relationship before doesn't mean she knows exactly how much compromise needs to go into making one work. Highschool relationships are a very different thing than a relationship in the real world. They are way way too dramatic things for my taste. I am glad I'll never have to deal with them again.
 
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I do still maintain that it's never a good idea to try and rationalize too much when a girl is in one of the moods not to be rational. Pretty much all she wants is a sincere apology and a promise to priortize her a bit more. She wants you to show that she's the most important thing in her life right now. It's usually based out of some insecurity and douby about how much you really care. If you do this you avoid the 1-3 hour argument and may actually still have a good time together. Then the next day when she's a bit more rational you have a talk about it. At that point she'll usually say she knows she was overreacting a bit and say sorry herself.

When you try to rationalize her feelings right then and there, there's really no way to do it without sounding condescending. Even if she knows she's wrong in the rational part of her mind, she's going to get more upset because you're basically making her feel stupid which is the exact opposite of what she's looking for. Remember, she wants an assurance that you are prioritizing her, and she's not going to feel that if you are making her feel stupid and like her feelings aren't important.

It's an art form to be able to handle a girl like that. Sometimes it will be unavoidable to get into an argument, but most of the time it can be avoided. Why is it worth fighting about? She actually will see reason when you talk about it later. If you really care, can't you just give her the point right now and have a good time?

This isn't to your case specifically. This is a kinda general piece of advice which ought to help a lot of guys out.
 
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"Do YOU have a crush on anyone?"

Apparently I do - it's really been building up the last couple weeks. I haven't felt like this in a LONG time, and in general until now I've always been perfectly content to not be involved in relationships. I've been praying about this a lot over the last few days in particular, and I'm coming away feeling that I need to go ahead with this.

I probably won't see her for another week or so, so any prayers for guidance and peace in the meantime are appreciated.
 
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You're welcome :), if you don't mind me asking: what's the circumstances which you two have met and see one another?

Weekly Bible study. Ran into her very briefly at church today, but only enough to say hi (we usually go to different service times).
 
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Weekly Bible study. Ran into her very briefly at church today, but only enough to say hi (we usually go to different service times).

Cool, well I certainly hope things become more engaging with one another and you get to know each other a lot more :)
 
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