...Do you even believe in Evolution in the first palce?

[kellhus]

Have you been following the conversation, Cab; or are you breaking in here?

Jesus drank what we call New Testament wine.

In other words: grape juice.

This is demonstrably false, read virtually any piece of contemporary writing: Cicero, Josephus, Seneca, Cato, the Iliad, even the letters of the Apostles, the other books of the New Testament, and your claim is ludicrous.

 

[pgp_protector]

...snip....

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But....
The Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy on god - YouTube

 

[EnemyOfReason]

English ~ the lost language of ancient times....

I wish to will give you this fact though about "Sacred Languages"
Do keep in mind that many Muslims will hate me for being honest and criticizing other Muslims but if something/someone needs to be criticized I shall do it.


Many Muslims believe that Allah was worshiped throughout the ages as Allah and that Arabic is the sacred language of mankind. Arabic is the first language and it is the language of those who reach Jannah (Heaven). They are taught that god only hears the dua(supplication) unless it is from narration or Qur'an while spoken in its pure Arabic form. The greater irony is that they believe the ruhi(soul) is inertly designed to worship Allah(swt). By saying this they assert that a baby's first language is Arabic and that if he is left without the influence of another language he will speak Arabic!

There are videos on youtube of supposed babies saying Allah(swt) before they can speak properly.

So to say Adam wrote Genesis in English is not nearly as bizarre as the claims made by Muslims sometimes.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I myself enjoy his posts



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He's useful when the situation calls for comic relief... or an argument against Christianity.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

This is demonstrably false, read virtually any piece of contemporary writing: Cicero, Josephus, Seneca, Cato, the Iliad, even the letters of the Apostles, the other books of the New Testament, and your claim is ludicrous.

From what I have read, Josephus also witnessed the divine destruction of Jerusalem in AD70, along with seeing some fairly "bizarre" things happening before the Romans destruction of it.


http://www.christianforums.com/t7033640-5/#post44766311
Is Josephus considered a reliable Historian?

Is Josephus considered a reliable historian and could YAHWEY have used him to record the Last Days events upon the OC Jewish Nation and Temple as described in the Olivet Discourse?

What are others views of this?

Below is some of the rather "bizarre" things that is recorded in his writings

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

By George Peter Holford
(Written in 1805)
"I consider the Prophecy relative to the destruction of the Jewish nation,
if there were nothing else to support Christianity, as absolutely irresistible."
(Mr. Erskine's Speech, at the Trial of Williams, for publishing Paine's Age of Reason)​

Our Lord proceeded, "And fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven." [6]- Josephus has collected the chief of these portents together, and introduces his account by a reflection on the strangeness of that infatuation, which could induce his countrymen to give credit to impostors, and unfounded reports, whilst they disregarded the divine admonitions, confirmed, as he asserts they Were, by the following extraordinary signs :.......................

Such are the prodigies related by Josephus, and which, excepting the first, he places in the Year immediately preceding the Jewish war. Several of them are recorded also by Tacitus.......................

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[EnemyOfReason]

Getting back to the main topic of this thread, is there still nobody wishing to debate the Evolution of Man?
This seems to be the most dodged topic as of now.

 

[AV1611VET]

So are you being serious?

I'm quite serious.

What language do you think Adam wrote (or spoke)?

In your opinion?

 

[HitchSlap]

Getting back to the main topic of this thread, is there still nobody wishing to debate the Evolution of Man?
This seems to be the most dodged topic as of now.

Meh, for me it's a bit like debating heliocentricity. ToE is such an established fact at this point in time, to deny it is insanity, IMO.

 

[AV1611VET]

Meh, for me it's a bit like debating heliocentricity. ToE is such an established fact at this point in time, to deny it is insanity, IMO.

Then consider me insane, please.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Getting back to the main topic of this thread, is there still nobody wishing to debate the Evolution of Man?
This seems to be the most dodged topic as of now.

No it's not.
The topic of evolution is one of the most discussed topics on CF. They are as the sand of the seashore

Rom 9:27
And Isaiah doth cry concerning Israel, `If the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, the remnant shall be saved'...

Rev 20:8
and he shall go forth to lead the nations astray, that are in the four corners of the land -- Gog and Magog --
to gather them together to war, of whom the number [is] as the sand of the sea;

 

[kellhus]

I'm quite serious.

What language do you think Adam wrote (or spoke)?

In your opinion?

Why the heck would we suppose Adam wrote at all? If he did, I would assume some sort of pictographic script.

 

[bhsmte]

I'm quite serious.

What language do you think Adam wrote (or spoke)?

In your opinion?

Really?

Approximately what time period are you claiming Adam wrote Genesis in english?

 

[pgp_protector]

No it's not.
The topic of evolution is one of the most discussed topics on CF. They are as the sand of the seashore

Rom 9:27
And Isaiah doth cry concerning Israel, `If the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, the remnant shall be saved'...

Rev 20:8
and he shall go forth to lead the nations astray, that are in the four corners of the land -- Gog and Magog --
to gather them together to war, of whom the number [is] as the sand of the sea;

The Math Dude : How Many Grains of Sand are on Earth’s Beaches? :: Quick and Dirty Tips ™

So Earth’s beaches contain roughly 5,000 billion billion—aka, 5 sextillion—grains of sand.

So if we have to wait tell that number, we've got a long wait.

http://www.prb.org/Articles/2002/HowManyPeopleHaveEverLivedonEarth.aspx

NUMBER WHO HAVE EVER BEEN BORN 107,602,707,791

 

[HitchSlap]

I'm quite serious.

What language do you think Adam wrote (or spoke)?

In your opinion?

I'm not sure what Dave thinks, but the Adam as described in Genesis never existed.

 

[HitchSlap]

Then consider me insane, please.

Was there ever any doubt?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why the heck would we suppose Adam wrote at all? If he did, I would assume some sort of pictographic script.

Then what language do you think he spoke?

 

[AV1611VET]

Really?

Approximately what time period are you claiming Adam wrote Genesis in english?

Circa 4000 - 3500 BC.

 

[EnemyOfReason]

No it's not.
The topic of evolution is one of the most discussed topics on CF. They are as the sand of the seashore

I am referring to it being dodged in this thread. Nobody is willing to debate the Fact of Evolution with a zindiq apparently

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by HitchSlap

Meh, for me it's a bit like debating heliocentricity. ToE is such an established fact at this point in time, to deny it is insanity, IMO.
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Then consider me insane, please.

Was there ever any doubt?

The Holy Christian Bible can do that to a person, including my humble self

Act 26:
24 At this point Festus interrupted Paul's defense. "You are out of your mind, Paul!" he shouted.
"Your great learning is driving you insane."
25"I am not insane! most excellent Festus," Paul replied. "What I am saying is true and reasonable".

Napoleon XIV: 'They're coming to take me away' - YouTube

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Dibs on thread split!


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