Do you believe this Covid-19 is real?

[RDKirk]

A normal yearly flu kills 30,000 every year in the USA.

If we don't reach that, will you admit that you were wrong?

When I was an active duty Air Force intelligence analyst, I advised a combat flight that if they routed through a particular area toward their target, they would run into enemy defenders.

Based on my warning, they flew a different route. At the mission debriefing, the lead pilot stated, "We didn't run into any of that defense activity you warned us about."

Well, that was because they took the precautions I gave them.

So if people are taking precautions with this disease, then we shouldn't reach the normal yearly flu deaths.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

A winner post.

Nobody should be able to tell you how to think... That is one of the biggest problems today.

No. the biggest problems are lack of common sense and superstition.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

The great flu epidemic of 1918 was in conjunction with the first war of the entire world. So, no, this isn't more scary. It's not even more scary than polio, which occurred in conjunction with the possibility of nuclear war.

People are reacting like it is more scary. They did not close borders or quarantine whole countries or states during the first world war did they? Thed did not sendout the Nation Guard to make people stay at home did they?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

So if people are taking precautions with this disease, then we shouldn't reach the normal yearly flu deaths.

No one is saying don't follow recommendations.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

People are reacting like it is more scary. They did not close borders or quarantine whole countries or states during the first world war did they? Thed did not sendout the Nation Guard to make people stay at home did they?

And people who got vitamin c did well. (re flu , virus, and polio)

 

[RDKirk]

People are reacting like it is more scary. They did not close borders or quarantine whole countries or states during the first world war did they?

Yeah, that actually happens every war.

Thed did not sendout the Nation Guard to make people stay at home did they?

That hasn't happened yet. There was no reason to do that then, there is no reason to do that now.

But they did use local police forces to enforce quarantines in those earlier scares, and that is the implication of localities that have laid down specific ordinances today.

 

[RDKirk]

No one is saying don't follow recommendations.

Then the worst case scenarios should not happen, and it doesn't mean that they were wrong if the worst case scenarios don't happen as a result of people taking the advised precautions.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

My 60 year old healthy neighbor and a pastor told me that is Covid-19 is not as bad as the media has said. No telling if he is spreading this all over his church???

People saying that and living that are the reason I’m in self-isolation right now. It’s because at home, away from people who think they know more than the experts and have zero regard for anybody but themselves, is the safest place for me to be.

 

[dogs4thewin]

You realize that for a month it seemed we had a single death, then the number was 7, and yesterday we had 21 people die in a single day. At 21/day we would have over 6,000 deaths in a year. But that would be completely unrealistic, this thing is growing exponentially, doubling every 4 days. At that rate Friday's death rate will be 42.

So admit that I was wrong about what? That this is more serious than the flu? How about this, if in 3 weeks you don't admit that it is more serious than the flu then I am wrong. My claim is this, 3 weeks from now every person in the USA will know that this is far more serious than the flu.

What about if in three weeks the death rate is lower. Remember, who the vast majority of people are who are dying, so if in three weeks the numbers are down then that means that either you are wrong about the death rate increasing or people are getting it at a lower rate ( because we are currently fighting to keep the deaths down which if it works will mean FAR fewer people will end up dying of this than of the flu in this country.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

People saying that and living that are the reason I’m in self-isolation right now. It’s because at home, away from people who think they know more than the experts and have zero regard for anybody but themselves, is the safest place for me to be.

Find or seek, and keep seeking, in line with God's Word, His Way, daily.

There's people who do know more, and who lay down their own lives for one another daily.

The safest place for anyone to be is under the Almighty's Wings, in His Protection, anyplace on earth.

 

[dogs4thewin]

30,000? In a year? Are you kidding? If we don't have 300,000 dead in the US in the next 60 days then I am wrong. Write it down, May 17, we have less than 300,000 dead from Covid then I am wrong.

Well considering that right now it is right at 100 if people stay home the virus will not spread and we will get nowhere near that NO WHERE

 

[ZNP]

So if people are taking precautions with this disease, then we shouldn't reach the normal yearly flu deaths.

They aren't taking the precautions. Look Cuomo is, and he is passing laws that will require others to make changes. And these will "flatten the curve" a little. 8 days ago the US was on the exact same trajectory as Italy, only 13 days behind them. So now we are 5 days away from Italy, and we are taking serious measures. But the incubation period on this can be 5-10 days. So these affects will not kick in for another 5 or 10 days. Also there is a lot of deceit about these precaution

Well considering that right now it is right at 100 if people stay home the virus will not spread and we will get nowhere near that NO WHERE

OK, 5 days from now US has 200 dead. If it is much less than that you may be right. May 22, Sunday, if the US has 200 dead or thereabouts it has not slowed down.

 

[dogs4thewin]

They aren't taking the precautions. Look Cuomo is, and he is passing laws that will require others to make changes. And these will "flatten the curve" a little. 8 days ago the US was on the exact same trajectory as Italy, only 13 days behind them. So now we are 5 days away from Italy, and we are taking serious measures. But the incubation period on this can be 5-10 days. So these affects will not kick in for another 5 or 10 days. Also there is a lot of deceit about these precaution

OK, 5 days from now US has 200 dead. If it is much less than that you may be right. May 22, Sunday, if the US has 200 dead or thereabouts it has not slowed down.

That makes no sense because suppose that next week ( with these restrictions we begin losing one or two people a day we will stay remain at well below 300k by mid-May.

 

[ZNP]

In Italy right now, we are experiencing a complete and total national lockdown — something that might happen in the US in the near future.

The virus has ravaged our country. Hospitals in the north are on the verge of collapse. Intensive-care units are full of people who are elderly, but also people who are 40 and 50. The streets are empty, and restaurants are closed. You have to have an authorization paper to walk your dog.

Only 10 days ago in Rome, this wasn't the case. The government had closed schools and most sporting facilities, but nothing else. Our teenagers were socializing in the evening with their friends. Kids had time on their hands and were healthy and well rested. Did we, as parents, really want them at home on their screens, where they'd been all day?

 

[dogs4thewin]

In Italy right now, we are experiencing a complete and total national lockdown — something that might happen in the US in the near future.

The virus has ravaged our country. Hospitals in the north are on the verge of collapse. Intensive-care units are full of people who are elderly, but also people who are 40 and 50. The streets are empty, and restaurants are closed. You have to have an authorization paper to walk your dog.

Only 10 days ago in Rome, this wasn't the case. The government had closed schools and most sporting facilities, but nothing else. Our teenagers were socializing in the evening with their friends. Kids had time on their hands and were healthy and well rested. Did we, as parents, really want them at home on their screens, where they'd been all day?

What this assumes basically is that people do not social distance themselves even with restrictions if they do so this will get more manageable.

 

[expos4ever]

But this panic is not necessary. Do what your government recommends.

If you mean that panic is useless, I heartily agree. And if you really mean what you write in your second sentence, then I heartily agree and congratulate you on clarifying your position.

 

[Jok]

Because first they covered things up and then they served as an example of how to handle things.

Agreed, but it’s just that I seem to only be hearing a lot of praise of them lately minus any of the “But let’s not forget” blame attached to it. I actually found myself wondering if people even remember.

 

[expos4ever]

So if people are taking precautions with this disease, then we shouldn't reach the normal yearly flu deaths.

Man, I hope you are right.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Man, I hope you are right.

It only makes sense that if people will distance themselves and not spread the virus it will die out before it kills a ton more people.

 

[Jok]

Think there was a "set up" to "steer sheeple" around ?

Sure looks like it every day.

It makes me nervous to hear draconian measures being praised without pointing out the bad. It’s almost like I’m waiting for the words Everyone should be more like China! What about the people getting pulled out of their cars and beaten, what about people getting welded inside their homes? What about silencing that young doctor who later died?

I wouldn’t put anything past governments.